As you’ll hear in this episode, Mike and I met about seven years ago when we were each out walking our sons. I was surprised to meet a man who had done what I did – subsume a hard-won professional career to primary caregiving for a child. But the more we talked, the more we realized the complex emotions we were feeling about our decisions to be very present parents weren’t about gender. At least not exactly. At least not all the time.
What happens when fathers do what Mike is doing – and what does it tell us about kinship, gender, and the meaning of life? We explore that and more as we talk with Paul Sullivan, a prolific journalist who has decided to start The Company of Dads, a new business centered on “lead dads,” and with Jon Adler, an academic psychologist who has an egalitarian parenting relationship with his husband.
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Alice Dreger, creator and host
Michael Teager, producer and musician
