Marty sits down with Matt Cole from Strive to discuss the tidal shift in America driven by bitcoin.

Matt on Twitter: https://x.com/colemacro

Strive: https://strive.com/

0:00 - Intro

0:36 - ESG/DEI disaster isn’t quite over yet

13:52 - Unchained & Coinkite

16:12 - Matt’s background and framing bitcoin for pensions

25:04 - Career risk of missing bitcoin

28:52 - Moving the Overton window and helping clients with bitcoin

33:12 - Zaprite & SOTE

34:45 - Making the most of bitcoin

43:07 - How using bitcoin changes your understanding

48:48 - AI machine payments, regulations and altcoins

56:34 - Trump admin stepping out of America’s way

1:03:21 - America has centuries left

1:13:33 - Wrapup

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