In this episode of Clutter Free Academy, Kathi Lipp welcomes author Dana K. White for their first-ever conversation about the intersection of faith and decluttering. Dana shares her personal journey from anonymous blogger to bestselling author, revealing how she discovered that creative, successful women often struggle the most with clutter. Together, they explore why shame is so deeply connected to our messy spaces and how understanding that "Jesus doesn't care about your messy house" can be the key to making real progress. If you've ever felt that your cluttered home somehow makes you a spiritual failure, this episode offers liberating insights. Dana debunks common misconceptions about biblical references to order and cleanliness, including a fresh perspective on the Proverbs 31 woman. Listeners will discover: Why traditional organizing advice often fails creative minds How removing shame is the first step to making actual progress Dana's practical decluttering question: "If I needed this item, where would I look for it first?" The freedom that comes from embracing the reality of your space Whether you're just starting your decluttering journey or have been struggling for years, this conversation offers both spiritual encouragement and practical strategies to help you create a functional home without shame. Resources mentioned in this episode: Dana K. White's website - https://danakwhite.com/ Dana’s new book, Jesus Doesn't Care About Your Messy House - https://www.aslobcomesclean.com/jesus/