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In this episode, Kristin Messegee sits down with ATC host Jeff Cook to learn Type One from the inside out.

They start with the inner critic—“like being tumbled by a six-foot wave”—and why Ones wish for an edit button in real life. Jeff shares how verbal processing helps his intuition lock in, what agency feels like in the body (“gliding on glassy water”), and how anger becomes usable energy instead of something to hide.

They also explore autonomy, black-and-white thinking, resentment and “memorizing sins,” the pull to problem-solve over connect, avoiding grief, and the grounding question: What’s mine to do?

If you want concrete tells for spotting One dynamics—in stress, in security, and in relationships—this conversation delivers.

Katie sits down with Veronica, a 32-year-old Enneagram One and R&D scientist in Chicago, to trace how Ones learn to trust their gut, make room for gray, and respond to what’s needed. Veronica shares her path into the Enneagram, the “responsive stance” in a family with no assertive types, and why Ones often look “negative” when they’re actually reaching for what could be better.

They compare One and Six problem-solving, One and Three achievement, and talk anger as “what happens when things don’t go your way”—and what to do with it. Veronica names how therapy helped her drop performative goodness, navigate work mistakes without collapse, and show up for people over perfection.

Money Quote : “I don’t want to be right—I want to know what is right.”

Subscribe to the Inside Story : HERE

Become a Member of ATC : HERE

In this episode, Kristin Messegee sits down with ATC host Jeff Cook to learn Type One from the inside out.

They start with the inner critic—“like being tumbled by a six-foot wave”—and why Ones wish for an edit button in real life. Jeff shares how verbal processing helps his intuition lock in, what agency feels like in the body (“gliding on glassy water”), and how anger becomes usable energy instead of something to hide.

They also explore autonomy, black-and-white thinking, resentment and “memorizing sins,” the pull to problem-solve over connect, avoiding grief, and the grounding question: What’s mine to do?

If you want concrete tells for spotting One dynamics—in stress, in security, and in relationships—this conversation delivers.

Link to our Workshop on Excess | HERE

Become a Member of ATC | HERE

In this episode, Jeff sits down with author and Enneagram Seven Christa Harden ("Enneagram in Marriage") to unpack how the three instincts—self-preserving, one-to-one, and social—shape relationships.

They trace why self-care isn’t selfish but foundational, how biology meets typology, and why balance across instincts matters more than “being a subtype.”

Guest

Krista Harden is a writer and podcaster (Enneagram in Marriage) with two decades of couples work. She’s currently writing a book on instincts and relationships. You can connect with her HERE.

Link to our Workshop on Excess | HERE

Up next, 2s!

Rebecca Dollard, founder of The Motherhood Mentor, is a somatic healing practitioner that helps high-achieving women and mothers who “have it all together” but feel disconnected inside. Through somatic healing, nervous-system-based coaching, and enneagram she guides them to expand their capacity, soften their edges, and lead with power and presence.

Links: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-motherhood-mentor/id1735994095

P.S. for anyone who may have noticed, we've skipped 1s. We will release the episode on 1s later on in this series, we promise!

LINKS TO THE NEW FEED:

• Inside Story on Spotify: HERE
• Inside Story on iTunes: HERE

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On this Episode, We’re kicking off Our New Podcast "Inside Story" by turning the mic toward ATC co-host T.J. Wilson (Type Nine).

This is a spacious, honest conversation about Nine life from inside —how “gut knowing” actually shows up, why autonomy matters so much to body types, and what conflict feels like when it lands in the body. T.J. names the costs of keeping the peace, the sideways ways anger can surface, and the mantra that’s changing his relationship to procrastination (“later is not a point in time”).

Along the way we get practical: decision-making when everything feels equally important, how merging can be a superpower and a trap, why stable presence draws Sixes, and what Nines need most from the people who love them (space, time, permission—and an endpoint).

Also, check out Kristin's excellent work here:

• Life Uninhibited – The Enneagram 6 Podcast (Kristin’s flagship show): kristinmessegee.com/podcasts/life-uninhibited-the-enneagram-6-podcast Kristin Messegee
• Kristin’s website (coaching for Sixes): kristinmessegee.com Kristin Messegee
• Zero to Sixy (Kristin’s community/program): kristinmessegee.com/zero-to-sixy-2 Kristin Messegee
• Instagram: @enneagram_6_coach instagram.com

FOR THE REST OF THE EPISODE : GO HERE

Or simply search for "Early Access" on you podcast platform of choice.

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Up next: 9s!

In this week’s episode, Katie talks to Rev. Andrew Bowles (he/him), a Certified Narrative Enneagram Teacher, professional member of the International Enneagram Association, ordained minister, and experienced healthcare chaplain. We talk about why 5s and 9s look so similar, what it really feels like to feel like your presence doesn’t matter, and we also get into the worldview of each type (which means that there’s a nugget of gold to be found in this episode for every number!)

Link to Hunter’s book: HERE

Link to Life in the Trinity ministry's website: https://www.lifeinthetrinityministry.com/

Link to Andrew’s website: https://www.pathstopresence.com/about

Andrew's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pathstopresence9/

Many of you know we have a handful of things going on both personally and here at ATC; this is all the fun stuff and hard stuff.

In this podcast we’ll be talking about everything from the end of one chapter to the opening of another.

You can see all our new Podcast feeds at Our Enneagram Channel : HERE

Quick Links:

• Saturday Online Workshops
• Free membership at AroundTheCircle.org
• Early Access podcast – Coming soon for the next-gen transitions
• Inside Story podcast – Kristin Messegee's interview series
• Scientific Enneagram – Danielle Fuller’s science + Enneagram series
• Start Here podcast (re-launching foundational series)