Welcome to this second special episode of Canny Conversations Contemplations where we take a look back at some of the highlights from series 5 and Safaraz's interviews with some of the people involved with, and supporting, the Multi Cultural Apprenticeship Alliance. In this episode we hear from Viren Patel, the CEO of Open University World Wide and Rachel Jagger-Thomas, the Diversity Advisor at JTL. They talk about world wide education, the changing education landscape, diversity in the workplace and how deep lying cultures are being challenged and changed in certain industries.
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Welcome to the first of these special episodes of the Canny Conversations Podcast where we are going to look back at some of the guests we’ve been hearing from in this current series.

Your host, Safaraz Ali has been working in the Birmingham Business Community for 26 years and is the founder of the Multicultural Apprenticeship Awards and the Multicultural Apprenticeship Alliance.

In this episode we have brought together some clips of Saf’s conversations with, first, Jade Person, the new talent manager from Severn Trent and then followed by Graham Hasting-Evans the CEO of the NOCN Group.

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Is the traditional 9-5 workday hindering your potential? Discover how fostering a culture of lifelong learning and adaptability can bridge the digital skills gap within your organization. We challenge employers to move beyond outdated training methods and instead champion a dynamic environment of continuous learning for all employees, regardless of age or role. By embracing flipped classroom training and experimental learning, businesses can uncover hidden talents within their workforce, equipping them for the digital age.

Take a trip back to the early 1990s with us as we draw intriguing parallels to today's technological revolution. We explore the urgency for businesses to adapt to technological advancements or face obsolescence. Encouraging investment in work-based learning and apprenticeship programs, we push for a proactive embrace of change. Drawing inspiration from Daniel H. Pink's "Drive," we dissect the role of intrinsic motivation in boosting productivity, and how pushing employees with challenging tasks can bridge national productivity gaps.

In a world that thrives on diversity and innovation, we explore the indispensable role of universities and apprenticeship programs in preparing individuals for tech and digital sectors. Cities like Birmingham and London become vibrant examples of multicultural success, highlighting the potential to sustain a dynamic economy through cultural exchange. We celebrate initiatives like the Multicultural Apprenticeship and Skills Alliance and the impact of nurturing an inclusive, globally aware community. Join us as we share our commitment to this exciting journey towards a more interconnected society, inspired by leaders like Darren who champion positive societal change.

In the second part of this conversation between Safaraz Ali and Derrin Kent from TDM, they explore the transformative potential of employer accountability and engagement in apprenticeship programs. Derrin highlights the critical role of employers in driving the apprenticeship process, fostering a partnership that emphasizes experiential, on-the-job learning. Candid conversations with employers can lead to meaningful commitments, and strategies for dealing with non-engagement, including the tough decision to blacklist unresponsive organizations.

They also talk about the evolving landscape of work and learning integration, challenging traditional notions of work-life balance and employer-employee dynamics. With a focus on the historical context of apprenticeships. Saf and Derrin critique profit-focused models and discuss the impact of digital transformation and automation in the workplace. Also looking at the importance of effective content curation to keep educational organizations relevant and impactful, ensuring that training aligns with the latest innovations while meeting industry standards.

Hear how personalised learning can transform employer organisations by tailoring educational curriculums to meet specific needs.

From influential roles at Lloyd's Banking Group to pioneering transformations at Capita, Emily Rock's journey from the world of banking to the vibrant landscape of skills and training is nothing short of inspiring. We dive into the complexities and triumphs experienced during their transition, especially amidst the difficulties of the COVID-19 pandemic. Safaraz and Emily talk about her unique perspective on navigating a sector haunted by financial constraints and the constant battle to attract talent, revealing the stark contrast between the corporate and training environments. They explore the pressing issue of apprenticeship demand outpacing availability. Emily also shares eye-opening insights into the burgeoning interest in level four apprenticeships and the critical role both SMEs and large corporations play in bridging this gap. Spotlighting recent research, they discuss the need for reintroduced financial incentives for SMEs and the transformation of outdated apprenticeship perceptions. Their conversation underscores the potential of degree apprenticeships and offers strategic advice for SMEs looking to craft impactful apprenticeship programs.

In this episode we hear the first half of Safaraz's conversation with Emily Rock, the dynamic CEO of the Association of Apprentices She joins him to share her inspiring journey from corporate life to leading a micro-organization dedicated to supporting apprentices. We discover the unique challenges she faces in her role and her innovative strategies to connect apprentices, especially those in SMEs who often experience isolation, with a supportive virtual community. Emily opens up about how equipping apprentices with vital life skills and fostering a robust support system significantly boosts their completion rates and career outcomes, impacting industries such as retail, engineering, construction, and finance.
Emily offers a thoughtful reflection on her career transition and the bold step of moving from a corporate background to the helm of a burgeoning association. She brings to light the agility and distinct decision-making processes required in small organizations compared to the corporate giants. Emily candidly shares the mental commitment and personal rewards of being a CEO, illustrating her passion and determination to make a tangible impact in the world of apprenticeships without any regrets.
We also delve into the significance of mentorship and support systems in leadership roles, with insights on how the St Martin's Group aids in shaping effective apprenticeship policies. Emily discusses her experiences navigating complex policy communication, emphasizing the courage to admit when answers are elusive and the commitment to finding them.

What if the secret to educational excellence lies in focusing on quality over rapid expansion? Join us in an inspiring discussion as we journey through the remarkable transformation of Nelson & Clone College Group under the stewardship of Phil Wilkinson. Safaraz and Phil unpack the strategic decisions that prioritized exceptional student experiences and outstanding examination results, all while navigating the complex challenges of funding and the transition from the private to public sector and how wise investments in facilities and staffing have upheld the institution's commitment to excellence despite financial hurdles.

The conversation broadens to tackle the pressing issues of strategic growth and sustainability within the education sector and delve into the intricacies of funding allocation, bureaucratic challenges, and the essential need for streamlined processes and greater autonomy for colleges. Phil also tells us about the ambitious future plans of the Ascentis Group, from expanding ESOL provision to reintroducing functional skills qualifications and reviving access to HE diplomas, explaining how strategic financial planning and innovative growth strategies are essential to overcoming defunding and market fragmentation.
They also discuss the criteria for successful acquisitions and the importance of organic growth and digital transformation. The personal commitment of Ascentis' current leader to the organization's long-term vision underscores the stability and growth under his tenure. Lastly, we celebrate the profound impact of business acumen and leadership wisdom in driving social mobility, showcasing the tangible difference made in the education sector.