Confessions with Jess and Cindy

Auteur(s): Cindy Wagman and Jess Campbell
  • Résumé

  • Ever wish you could pull back the curtain and see how other nonprofit consultants run their businesses? Well, we’ve got you covered! Welcome to the Confessions podcast, hosted by Jess Campbell and Cindy Wagman. We are two former in-house nonprofit pros turned coaches and consultants to purpose driven organizations.


    In this podcast, we are giving you access to the business leaders who serve nonprofits as their clients - you know - the people who truly get it. No more gatekeeping, no more secrets - this podcast is going to give you an inside look at what running a successful nonprofit coaching and consulting business looks like. Basically, we’re asking people how much money they make, how they get paid and what has and hasn’t worked in their businesses.


    After building our own successful 6-figure nonprofit coaching and consulting businesses, we are on a mission to help other nonprofit coaches and consultants looking to start or scale their own businesses by pulling back the curtain.


    Whether you are still working inside a nonprofit and thinking of one day going out on your own or have been running your consulting business for years - you understand that working with nonprofits is just different. Listen in as sector leaders and other experts share their insights, their numbers, and the good, the bad and the ugly when it comes to building a nonprofit coaching or consulting business.


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    © 2025 Confessions with Jess and Cindy
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  • "This Isn't What I Want": How Brittny Wilson Built a Recruitment Agency from Scratch
    Apr 3 2025

    Ever find yourself doing work you swore you'd never do?

    You're not alone! When Brittny Wilson launched her consulting business in 2021, she quickly found herself saying yes to everything – especially event planning, which was literally on her "absolutely not" list.

    In this chat with our friend Brittny, she opens up about her journey from reluctant event planner to confident recruitment agency owner. The turning point? When her kids flat-out told her she wasn't "nice" during event season (ouch!) and when looking at her actual numbers showed her that what felt risky – walking away from steady event clients – was actually more profitable.

    Brittny gets real about the emotional rollercoaster of pivoting her business, the game-changing moment at Jess's conference when she started introducing herself differently, and how she's navigating the feast-or-famine nature of client work. Plus, she shares the exact pricing structure that's working for her now.

    Whether you're feeling stuck in work that drains you or trying to find the courage to specialize, Brittny's journey will remind you that sometimes the scariest business decisions lead to the most aligned (and profitable!) outcomes.


    Highlights:

    • Your gut knows when something isn't working. When Brittny's kids pointed out how stressed she became before events, it confirmed what she already felt – this work wasn't sustainable for her wellbeing.
    • Saying something out loud makes it real. The confidence to call herself a "recruitment agency" came before she felt 100% ready – and that declaration helped others see her differently.
    • Your pricing can protect your mission. Brittny's three-phase approach ensures clients don't skip critical elements like onboarding support – the key to her mission of keeping good people in the sector.
    • Systems save sanity. Working with a systems-focused contractor and implementing Airtable automations allowed Brittny to create a repeatable process that doesn't depend solely on her.

    Seasons are normal. Six clients in fall, crickets in January – Brittny reminds us that business ebbs and flows are totally normal (even when they're nerve-wracking!).

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Airtable - https://www.airtable.com/
    • Ashley (Airtable expert) - https://systemsoverstress.co/about
    • LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/login
    • Shannon Bowen - https://monsoonleadership.com/about/

    Find Us Online: https://www.confessionswithjessandcindy.com

    Connect with Brittny:

    Website: https://www.brittnywilson.com/

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittnywilson/

    Connect with Cindy:

    Cindy Wagman Coaching: cindywagman.com

    Fractional Fundraising Network: fractionalfundraising.co/

    LinkedIn: ca.linkedin.com/in/cindywagman

    Connect with Jess:

    Out In the Boons: outintheboons.me

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jesscampbelloutntiheboons/

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    38 min
  • Fractional/Shift Replay: From Self-Doubt to Six Figures: Embracing Audacity in Your Consulting Business
    Mar 20 2025

    In this high-energy replay of the finale to our Fractional/Shift summit, entrepreneur Vivian Kaye (founder of KinkyCurlyYaki and operations coach) introduces us to "The Chadacity" – a mindset framework that teaches nonprofit consultants how to show up with bold confidence in their businesses.

    After bootstrapping a multi-million dollar business as an immigrant, college dropout, and single mother, Vivian shares how adopting just a fraction of the unapologetic confidence that mediocre “Chads” often display can transform your consulting practice. This isn't about being someone you're not – it's about stepping into the fullest, most confident version of yourself.

    From imposter syndrome to pricing strategy, Vivian challenges nonprofit consultants to stop playing small and start demanding what their expertise is worth. Through hilarious examples and practical advice, she demonstrates how confidence isn't something you wait for – it's something you build by taking bold action, even when (especially when) it feels uncomfortable.

    Highlights:

    • Stop Questioning, Start Claiming Your Worth: Your expertise isn't a luxury – it's valuable. Vivian demonstrates how mindset shifts around money and worth are essential to scaling past six figures. "Common sense is not common – there are people who will gladly pay for what you think is simple."
    • Take Bold Action Before You Feel Ready: The confidence muscle only develops through practice. Start with one bold move today (not tomorrow), whether that's raising your rates, adding a client even when you feel at capacity, or launching a service you've been hesitating on.
    • The "What Would Chad Do?" Framework: When facing decisions or opportunities, ask yourself what an overconfident person would do in your situation – then do it (minus the jerk behavior). This simple reframe helps bypass self-limiting beliefs that keep consultants stuck.
    • Take Up Space Unapologetically: Whether through your personal brand, communication style, or physical presence at events, stop minimizing yourself. Vivian notes how she intentionally wears bright colors and makes direct eye contact to be memorable in professional settings.
    • Confidence Without Compromise: True confidence isn't about stepping on others to get ahead – it's about showing up authentically while uplifting those around you. Use your "Chadacity" to create positive impact and inspire the nonprofit community.

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Connect with Vivian Kaye on Instagram: @VivianKaye
    • Vivian's website: VivianKaye.com
    • Fractional Fundraising Network: https://www.fractionalfundraising.co/
    • Vivian's business coaching: Operations coaching for entrepreneurs

    Find Us Online: https://www.confessionswithjessandcindy.com

    Connect with Cindy:

    Cindy Wagman Coaching: cindywagman.com

    Fractional Fundraising Network: fractionalfundraising.co/

    LinkedIn: ca.linkedin.com/in/cindywagman

    Connect with Jess:

    Out In the Boons: outintheboons.me

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jesscampbelloutntiheboons/


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    37 min
  • From Idea to 1,400 Registrants: Behind the Scenes of the Fractional/Shift Summit
    Mar 6 2025

    Okay, so you know how Jess has been bugging Cindy FOREVER to host a summit? Well, she finally did it! In this fun behind-the-scenes chat, Cindy spills all the tea on her first-ever Fractional Shift Summit that absolutely crushed it with 1,400+ registrations and $24K in revenue (and yes, she's got the Airtable data to prove it — you should see how happy spreadsheet data makes her!).

    Cindy opens up about why she finally felt ready to "take up space" as THE fractional expert, how she convinced practically every sponsor she approached to say yes (only three said no!), and why she thinks the nonprofit world needs way more time to make decisions than those "launch in 3 days" gurus will tell you.

    If you've been on the fence about hosting your own signature event, this episode is your permission slip to either go all-in or wait until it feels right. As Cindy says, it's definitely a "high effort, high reward" project — but now that she's built it once, she can rinse and repeat next year with half the stress.

    Highlights:

    • The moment Cindy knew she was ready to claim her spot as THE thought leader on fractional roles (and why she's glad she waited)
    • How she crafted a "curated approach" to partnerships that made sponsors feel like they were getting the golden ticket (and they funded all her speaker fees!)
    • Why she started promoting a full two months before launch (and why LinkedIn delivered even better than her email list)
    • The hilarious reality of launching her Academy right when the nonprofit world was in crisis mode (and what she'll do differently next time)
    • Her secret weapon named Christine who made the whole thing possible (because let's be real, no one does this alone!)

    Breaking News Alert! Jess and Cindy also drop the bomb that they're hosting in-person masterminds this year in Toronto (May 21), Boulder (August), and possibly Atlanta (October). Listen to the end for details!

    Find Us Online: https://www.confessionswithjessandcindy.com

    Connect with Cindy:

    Cindy Wagman Coaching: cindywagman.com

    Fractional Fundraising Network: fractionalfundraising.co/

    LinkedIn: ca.linkedin.com/in/cindywagman

    Connect with Jess:

    Out In the Boons: outintheboons.me

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jesscampbelloutntiheboons/

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    37 min

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