If that first episode left you wanting more, than want no more, because I ‘m back. And this time it's 'net downhill', because I brought some friends!

I welcome Mario & Erik to the pod, in what will be a recurring series that I am calling “Crew Access | Trail Talk With Erik & Mario. In this episode, you will get to learn all about Erik and Mario, how they got started running, how they balance running workouts with young kids, what their plans and ambitions are, and how we are all a bit nerdy but could probably put together a helluva jazz band. We also recount several race experiences, including the 2024 Wild Duluth 50K that they ran together, and Erik’s wild weekend in the desert at the 2025 Black Canyon races. Where, I might add, he made a new friend who goes by the name of Jim Walmsley.

This one runs a little long, but well worth the ride. So buckle up, grab your trumpet or sax and let’s get started. There’s no time to lose when you are Running Behind.

Erik's Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/

Mario's Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/

Wild Duluth Trail Races:

https://www.wildduluthraces.com/

Black Canyon 50K Elevation Profile:

https://aravaiparunning.com/network/blackcanyon/the-trail/

Jim Walmsley:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Walmsley

Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_Run

Running Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_pod

Joey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895

Chasing Cutoffs w/Ben Mead:

https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/chasingcutoffs

Artwork by Ed Linder