Cross Lab

Auteur(s): Steve Hohman & Olivia Espinosa
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  • Résumé

  • Cross Lab is where trial attorneys get hands-on with the art of constructive cross-examination. Hosted by career actors and expert storytellers Steve Hohman and Olivia Espinosa—who’ve played mock witnesses in over 1,500 cross-examinations—this podcast is packed with the POV you’re missing and won’t find anywhere else. Join us as we bring together your attorney peers for realistic cross simulations, where they’ll share their trials (and errors), personal insights, and real-world experiences. You’ll also discover how different approaches to the same witness can impact both their testimony and your jury’s perception. BONUS: No matter where you are in your career, you’ll bank TONS of fresh storytelling strategies, reusable cross chapters, and imagination-sparking word choices for your next depo or trial! Don’t miss our special Cross-Pollination episodes, where we explore the layers of effective storytelling for audiences, alongside industry collaborators. Tune in and subscribe to Cross Lab!
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  • Expert radiologist for the defense with 800+ cases on their behalf

    Expert radiologist for the defense with 800+ cases on their behalf
    Feb 18 2025

    In this episode of Cross Lab, hosts Steve Hohman and Olivia Espinosa welcome personal injury trial attorneys Susie Injijian and Jon Choate, along with personal injury and criminal defense attorney Russell Goodrow.

    Watch as these 3 attorneys cross-examine Steve, who portrays an expert radiologist on behalf of the defense. They’ll challenge his opinion that only soft tissue injuries and pre-existing conditions—not lingering effects from MTBI—are present in the plaintiff.

    What’s covered in this episode:

    • Techniques for a 'yes, and' cross-examination that questions expert conclusions
    • How to score points against an expert who protests too much
    • The power of improvised loops to solidify words and concepts for the jury
    • How to leverage the power of what an expert doesn’t know
    • The offensive word that will make an expert witness bristle (even if it’s the truth)

    Time Stamps

    00:00 What’s Cross Lab?

    3:18 How to start formulating a cross

    6:22 Case Description: Sandra Little v. Grant School District & Gary Carpenter

    9:20 Jon Choate’s cross: Word choice that paints a clear picture for the jury

    19:35 How to stay out of an argument with the witness

    29:40 Russell Goodrow’s cross: Loops to control a witness and an easy physical demonstrative

    40:55 What to do when a witness that won’t answer the question

    49:50 Susie Injijan’s cross: Techniques for being an effective teacher/guide for the jury

    1:00:47 The word that no expert will want to hear (because it’s sooo good for you)

    1:04:48 Your biggest weapon in the courtroom

    1:09:44 Top takeaways of you had to cross a witness like this

    Would you like to be a guest or have an idea for a future episode, reach out to us here!

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