• EP26 - 21MAR24 - Michael Tiew at LongHash Ventures on the importance of developer ecosystems, how to build, influencers, price leading fundamentals, is ETH a security??

  • Apr 12 2024
  • Durée: 43 min
  • Podcast

EP26 - 21MAR24 - Michael Tiew at LongHash Ventures on the importance of developer ecosystems, how to build, influencers, price leading fundamentals, is ETH a security??

  • Résumé

  • Longhash
    Started 2018, one of first web3 accelerators - more Asia focused; Early stage founders
    What’s unique - close partnership w/ ecosystems - Polkadot, Filecoin, Acela
    Two funds - 2021 defi fund, 2022 infra/multichain fund
    Small distributed team

    Accelerator
    -running since 2018, how has your approach to startups changed since then
    -during bear cycles (2022-2023), hard to find capital - accelerator can really help during this phase
    -normally it’s a team of 2 cofounders, we’re 3rd cofounder - first check
    $100-200K co-invest
    -2024 meta - more money and investment options, accelerator is still core element of helping early stage

    What accelerator teams had most success and what was different about them?
    -if VC is 99% failure, accelerator is even greater risk
    -lot of teams just have idea
    -bet on background, seasoned founders
    -web3 / crypto native, what’s magic of web3
    -“great founders pivot with the times”

    Ecosystem report
    https://www.longhash.vc/post/bootstrapping-developer-ecosystems-for-web3-protocols
    -developers are always your first users - b2b2c
    -0:1 phase (bootstrap) and 1:100 phase (flywheel)
    -0:1 — need technology, need to market it well, core team must be very vocal + present
    what is your positioning? Solana = onchain Nasdaq; Bitcoin = digital gold
    Bittensor = incentivization platform for AI models
    write a lot, be vocal on twitter and farcaster, produce a lot of content
    meme season — attention is next currency
    -1:100 phase — now u have developers, how do u get them to build interesting stuff
    Ronin: focus on helping game devs build good games — dev tools, SDKs, marketplace
    address different dev needs (eg, new devs v experienced ones)

    How do builders choose between the ecosystems?
    Many are mercenary
    How do ecosystems retain devs?
    - Case studies on Axelar, Berachain, Solana
    - Devs wanna go where the users are — eg, narrative that users are migrating to Base

    Flywheel
    Get best devs to build a few pioneer apps / use cases — get good users — get more devs
    Ronin — onboarded Pixels team one year ago, migrated from Polygon, Mavis Hub + Ronin name service, went from 10K to several hundred K DAU

    Token price matters a lot in web3
    -in bull, everyone wants to stay in ecosystem, get rewards
    -in bear / when price crashes, how to retain? Need clear focus on what ecosystem is about, why devs should build there
    -for bootstrapping, need well-designed tokenomics so early adopters are rewarded, yet sustainable (deflationary) in long-run

    In-person / offline events — hosting events, panels, sponsoring conference tracks

    “Everyone building an ecosystem”
    L1s > L2s > L3s
    L1s > EigenDA / Celestia
    Big projects will become own appchains / rollups
    Want to become a place where new ideas are built atop

    Influencers / crypto Twitter
    “Attention is next big world currency”
    Everyone attention span getting shorter, TikTok
    Crypto next meme coin, next narrative
    Few types — investor type (actually invest), founder/builder type (know tech), token price type (appeal to retail, what’s next 10x)

    Links shared:
    https://x.com/mo_baioumy/status/1760296558539501698
    @mo_baioumy AI x Crypto is a hot narrative right now.

    https://www.workingtheorys.com/p/before-the-crowd

    This is the same way people talk about the good ole days of the San Francisco tech scene (circa late 2000s to mid 2010s). The meetups were more meetup-y. The hackathons were more hack-y. The nerds were more nerdy. Everything in the tech scene felt more authentic, more egalitarian, and less sceney


    follow Michael on X @brazenburrit0

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