Mira Sucharov is professor of Political Science at Carleton University. Joshua Shanes directs the Norman and Gerry Sue Arnold Center for Israel Studies at the College of Charleston. Together, they are the co-founders of a digital discussion group called D’rachim — a New Path Forward for Israel/Palestine. They join Dan Libenson and Lex Rofeberg for the 4th episode in an ongoing mini-series exploring North American-Jewish discourse about Israel-Palestine.

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NOTE: This episode was recorded a couple months ago, prior to January 15th's ceasefire agreement -- and also prior to Donald Trump's statements on February 4th, articulating a vision for the mass displacement of all Palestinians in Gaza, and proposed US takeover of the area. Realities on the ground in Israel-Palestine are ever-changing, and there are new developments on a daily and weekly basis. We believe the contents of this episode are ever-green in many ways, but wanted listeners to understand that the conversation took place prior to these recent events, which is why they are not mentioned.