Jacqueline and Michelle discuss her career journey, sharing her transition from sales to learning and development at Organon. She emphasises viewing careers as long-term journeys rather than just jobs. Drawing from her childhood love of Lego, Michelle reflects on how early interests often shape career choices. She describes how career paths have evolved from traditional ladders to more flexible trajectories, advocating for finding joy in one's work. The conversation concludes with a powerful quote from Rosalynn Carter: "A leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they don't necessarily want to go, but ought to be."

To get in touch with Michelle, find her here:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-stokes-0914106/

In this episode, host Jacqueline Frost talks to Lisa Ardley-Price, Global Co-Chair, NatWest Gender Network.

Jacqueline and Lisa discuss her career journey: the transition from private practice to an in-house role at NatWest, prompted by the loss of both parents in 2013. The move enabled her to develop broader business skills while maintaining work-life balance. Alongside her legal career, she has become a fitness instructor, yoga teacher, and certified coach, driven by her passion for helping others reach their potential. Lisa shares Eleanor Roosevelt's quote about gaining strength through facing fears and doing what seems impossible.

To get in touch with Lisa, find her here:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-ardley-price-78076925/