Jenna opens the episode sharing the times she had been in counseling. When her father had cancer, the elementary school put her in counseling without telling her parents. Denise opens up about her father dying from cancer too. The girls discuss relationships, divorce, and friendships. “I do pray for people, but sometimes you need more than prayers,” Jenna says. “I feel like it’s a cop out,” Denise says. Priorities, boundaries, the messiness of parenthood, and how words matter are discussed. “Should and sometimes are bad words.”
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