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  • Kerre Woodham: You can't lump the homeless into one group
    Feb 22 2026
    I am torn on this one because I know somebody needs to do something. That classic old talkback quote, Somebody needs to do something." Well, somebody has. The government is giving police new powers to crack down on beggars, rough sleepers, and basically nasty oiks. Yesterday, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith, Police Minister Mark Mitchell announced the new move on orders and details around when they'll be issued and who they will target. Goldsmith said we should not accept our city centres becoming places of intimidation and dysfunction. He said our main streets and town centres have been blighted by disruption and disturbance, and inner city businesses are suffering as a result. And he's right. We've had many Auckland central city business people ringing in at their wits' end about what to do with people who've been sleeping and soiling in their shop doorways and who threaten and intimidate their customers. But the police are right, yet again, they're being told to do the dirty work, the mopping up when other agencies fail, just as they had to do when mental health services were failing the mentally ill. President of the Police Association Steve Watt told the Mike Hosking Breakfast this morning, it's not the police's job to move on the homeless. It's about getting the right resource to tackle the problem. And I appreciate police are that 24 7 agency that always respond, that get things done. But the reality is, is we can't be the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff every time. What we have to do is look at the problem That's what the police are, Steve. What we have to do is look at the problem and determine what's the best resource to deal with it. And I'd suggest in this case, it's not police. You sound like a social worker. If somebody's lying across the footpath and abusing me because they're high on drugs and they're causing a disturbance to the peace and I can't open my business or I can't go into a shop, that's your job, isn't it? And when you talk about the Summary Offences Act, there's offences in there that we can deal with disorderly behaviour. We can arrest people for disorderly behaviour. We can arrest people for threatening behaviour, offensive behaviour. That's not an issue, and we do that on a daily basis. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about move on orders from someone who hasn't committed an offence. And that's the thing, isn't it? That was Steve Watt, and to be fair, there was a fairly negative reaction to his comments. Oh, get tough, get hard." But if you've met one homeless person, you've met one homeless person. They can't all be lumped together as one hopeless, God forsaken bunch. Some of them are gentle, kind, broken souls, and I say that because I've met them and I've talked to them. And I think the police have too. So the police know there's a huge number of reasons as to why people are on the street. So some of them are just broken. They're gentle, they're kind, they're good, they're doing their best in a hopeless situation. Others are crazy, angry, broken souls, like the completely methed out old crone that takes her clothes off, climbs a tree God, the poor tree, you know, nature doesn't judge and that's a beautiful thing, but passers by can and do and shrieks at people from the top of the tree. You know, like, no, not good. Some have been on the street since they were kids because no matter how bad the streets are, it's better than the place they call home. Others are victims of circumstance. Remember the man who rang us? He was living in his car despite being a homeowner and formerly having a six figure salary. The drink had got to him. So in a moment of absolute clarity, he'd put tenants in the house so he didn't lose it and couch surfed till all his friends gave up on him they'd had a gutsful and he was living in his car waiting to get into a treatment centre. And I hope he's there now. I think he should be, shouldn't he, Helen? He said he was I think due to go in. And I hope he's doing well. And I have met some really lovely, lovely humans who happen to be homeless, some by choice, some by circumstance. I've also endured foul mouthed, foul smelling, aggressive humans who I've had to cross the road to get away from. So you can't just lump the homeless into one lot. There's a thousand different reasons why they're there, and the police are quite right. The agencies, the social agencies are the ones who should be trying to help them. Some of them won't be helped. And if, you know, if they're committing crimes, move them on. None of us should have to put up with abuse and intimidation, nor deal with the filth created by other people, no matter how damaged they are. So I'm really torn. You know, as the police say, if we're moving on the rough sleepers, who's responding to your burglary? Well, Steve, actually at the moment nobody is. You know, very few, you don't get an instant police response at the moment anyway, so it's not like you're going to be ...
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    7 min
  • Mark Mitchell: Police Minister discusses the proposed 'move on' order
    Feb 22 2026

    The Government is providing police with the power to issue move-on orders as a tool to deal with disorderly behaviour in public places.

    But, the Police Association says it can't always be the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff.

    President Steve Watt says these people on the streets have complex problems, include housing, mental health and financial issues - and Police aren't equipped to deal with these.

    Minister of Police Mark Mitchell told Kerre Woodham that the Police Association had the same response to the gang patch ban, yet were able to act once the law was in place.

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    10 min
  • Kerre Woodham: Did the intensification announcement allay your fears?
    Feb 20 2026
    We thought we'd start with the housing densification or de-densification that was announced yesterday. We didn't really get a chance to talk about it despite the fact that yesterday when the Prime Minister was in for an hour, he gave us a bit of an announcement of an announcement. “Long story short is what Chris will announce is a significant reduction in the capacity, which means that then actually that pressure of intensifying our suburbs in Auckland goes away. And what we want to see is intensification happening in the right places. Over the CBD, the transport hubs, the town centres, we should be densifying and putting more intensification. So where would the density occur? Should occur in the CBD, in the town centres, in the transport hubs that we've got across the across Auckland City, but not in the suburbs.” Didn't have to wait very long for the actual announcement, because a few hours later, Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced sweeping changes to housing densification in Auckland, with dwelling capacity being slashed from 2 million homes to 1.6 million. The housing intensification will still go ahead near transport hubs, rail corridors, and the CBD. Chris Bishop said yesterday that the 2 million housing figure had become a red herring that transformed into a lightning rod. Basically, people felt that 2 million houses would be put up right next door to them. That was the kind of irrational thinking behind it. There were concerns about who would be there, what sort of housing developments would go there, where people would shop, how people would get to work, where people would go to school. They were legitimate concerns, but there was, I agree with Chris Bishop, that 2 million suddenly became 2 million people will be next door to me. And he said the changes made yesterday were a response to public feedback. Hamish Firth, who you will have heard on this show before, who is most excellent, who is an urban planner, who was stolen by the Mike Hosking Breakfast this morning, said the changes announced by the Minister yesterday made sense. “What we've got to be very careful when you suddenly throw 2 million out there is you create paper capacity, but you're going to create community backlash, you're going to create land value distortion, and you're probably not going to create any extra homes, especially against the backdrop of what was a very well written Auckland Unitary Plan. At the end of the day, targets don't build houses, infrastructure and feasibility do. And what you'll find right now is a lot of high rise buildings are very expensive to build, and they only get built, as you're starting to see, in very high end areas where the developer can achieve a very high end outcome. So just because you can build to 50 doesn't mean many of these sites will or may, and I think that some thought has to go into that.” Does this allay the fears you might have had about intensification of housing? Does the fact that the Government has listened show a government that is concerned and understands and appreciates the fears of well, many around the country, because what happens in Auckland quite often filters through to the rest of the country? That by being willing to listen, that shows, you know, a reasonable kind of a government. Labour was shouting about a u-turn and they've got it all wrong and they've had to backpedal. But a couple of texters yesterday, because I said to the Prime Minister yesterday, this just looks like you're looking after the voters in the leafy suburbs. And a couple of people from the leafy suburbs said it makes no sense to put people in areas where there is no transport hub, where there are no schools. And I think that's a perfectly valid point and I accept that. And when the PM said yesterday that you could pop up housing developments, you know, put 100 homes into an area without having to provide for transport, without having to provide for schools, there was no thought to it, you could just sell off the land and the council'd say, “Yeah, sure, you can turn that into a development," – that doesn't make sense either. There's got to be planning and forethought when you are putting in new homes. That's what will create a thriving community. Putting it around the transport hubs, great. Putting it in the CBD and the and the suburbs closest to the CBD, great. Watch new communities develop. Does that allay the fears that people had now? First home buyers, there have never been more of them right now, and that's pleasing. We never want to see the kind of rorting and speculation that we saw with housing prices, and an increase in supply will help mitigate that. And we don't want to see people stranded in the middle of nowhere in housing developments that have put a roof over their head but precious little else. So love to hear from you on this, especially if you had concerns at the time. Does this kind of tinkering with the plan, this kind of revisiting of the plan, ...
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    6 min
  • Gavin Grey: UK Correspondent on the arrest of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor
    Feb 19 2026

    An unprecedented day continues for the UK, with Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor released under investigation after his arrest overnight.

    The former Prince has been pictured leaving a Norfolk police station following allegations he shared sensitive information with late sex-offender Jeffrey Epstein.

    Searches have taken place at addresses in Berkshire and Norfolk.

    His brother King Charles has stressed the law must take its course.

    UK Correspondent Gavin Grey told Kerre Woodham Mountbatten-Windsor is maintaining his complete innocence, despite this being only one of a number of police investigations around him.

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    10 min
  • Kerre Woodham: Can you see the light at the end of the tunnel?
    Feb 18 2026
    The Official Cash Rate has been left unchanged, 2.25%, expected by all the commentators, but perhaps less expected was a dovish view of the future. It was the new Reserve Bank Governor's, well she's not that new I suppose, the newish Reserve Bank Governor's first OCR review, having come on board at the end of '25. She is pretty optimistic about the economy. She said it will continue to recover, but she understands that many households are not feeling it yet. Must be rather annoying being told, no, everything's fine, everything's turning around, everything's great, while you're looking down the back of the couch for coins to get the kids' school lunches. But there are great numbers coming out of our primary industry sector and thank God for you. Just take a moment on your tractor, in your shed, on the motorbike, in the fields, just take a little moment to have a big deep breath and consider yourself congratulated and thanked. Kiwifruit, dairy, sheep, beef, yet again that sector, our primary industry sector, is doing the heavy lifting to keep the engine of the economy running. How many times? And we should point out, you were doing it with one hand and one leg tied behind your back for much of the past decade. So thank you again for keeping us going, producing stuff that the rest of the world wants. However, we can't depend on you, we shouldn't be as reliant upon you as we all are. Trends change, markets change, you know, all of a sudden, the world will decide that, oh I don't know, refined sugar is the way to go, not protein, and all of a sudden, the world will change. Unlikely to go for refined sugar, but you know what I mean. You're also vulnerable to climate, you know, a good season needs good weather. You're vulnerable to external markets. To a certain extent you are not the author of your own fortune, you are very dependent on outside and external sources. And if you're dependent on that, so too are we. We need to find other strands, other sectors to build up. You know, technology would be ideal and we've made some great marks in that, bioscience, fantastic, but not houses. Let's not look at an unproductive sector of the economy to provide us with wealth again. House prices have come back a little in the North Island, Auckland's average asking price is once again over a million dollars, and you should see the tat you get for that. That's up 9% from December. Tale of two islands: Christchurch, Queenstown, Otago, Southland, all seen significant increases in prices. But the “drop in value” has seen a drop in confidence. Reserve Bank's Paul Conway says the reduced prominence of the wealth effect from higher house prices is a risk to the economic recovery. It's a big change, he says, for the New Zealand economy to not have that increase in house prices as a kicker to aggregate demand. He says there may well have been structural changes in the housing market that means an increase in demand for housing no longer equates with higher house prices. And it's true, for a couple of decades Kiwi property owners have been living off the wealth of their main asset. There were astronomical rises in the value of homes around the country and people felt wealthy and spent like they were wealthy. A chronic undersupply of homes, high migration, low interest rates saw huge rises in the value of homes around the country and so people spent like they were rich. All of a sudden, a home became far more than a place you lived in, it was an asset with equity which you could use to springboard yourself into wealth, as so many of the ads that we ran on this station told you. People spent like drunken sailors and the economy boomed. Fast track to the post Covid slump and people have seen their house prices drop – in some horrible cases they owe more on their house than they can sell it for. And as Paul Conway says, there may well have been structural changes to the housing market. High prices for the essentials means there's less disposable income in households and if one of you has been made redundant, it has been a tough few years. We've lost our groove. But as Reserve Bank Governor Dr. Anne Bremen told Mike Hosking this morning, there's enormous potential in the New Zealand economy and there are reasons to be optimistic. “I think it's a great economy. I think New Zealanders are underestimating actually the potential going forward in the New Zealand economy. We're already seeing some sectors doing really well, agriculture, manufacturing is starting going, and I do expect this to broaden in this year. So I'm very positive. We actually think there's quite a lot of what we call spare capacity in the economy, so we think that the economy can grow at a higher pace without causing so much inflationary pressure because there is still high unemployment, firms can increase, you know, manufacturing without having, they're starting to invest actually, which is also really good to see. So we do think there is spare ...
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    9 min
  • Christopher Luxon: Prime Minister takes talkback, discusses infrastructure, housing intensification, polls
    Feb 18 2026

    The Government will today reveal its back down on controversial Auckland housing intensification plans amid fierce public criticism.

    New planning rules would currently allow another 2 million homes in Auckland.

    But last month the Government announced it'll water down the rules with an announcement expected this afternoon.

    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon told Kerre Woodham a balance needs to be struck.

    He says Auckland has to grow with affordable housing, but quite rightly some Aucklanders have said they don't want big buildings next to their homes.

    He’s also allaying concerns about a proposal for a $9 toll on Auckland's Harbour Bridge.

    The Infrastructure Commission recommended tolling the existing bridge, and second new crossing, to reduce construction costs on the Crown.

    But Luxon told Woodham it's only an idea.

    He says the Government hasn't decided whether it'll be a new bridge or a tunnel yet, and decisions on how to fund it will come later.

    He says tolls are the only way to pull forward the development of new roads, faster.

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    34 min
  • Kerre Woodham: We need to see more governance and less politicking
    Feb 17 2026
    The National Infrastructure Plan was released yesterday, and it makes for grim reading. I don't think anyone expected good news, but nonetheless a cold hard dose of reality is always unwelcome, especially when you've been wilfully ignoring the obvious for years. The plan looks at 17 sectors covering central government, local authorities, and commercially regulated utilities, and lays out a 30 year outline looking at how New Zealand can improve the way it plans, funds, maintains, and delivers infrastructure. So far, so very grown up, but really this is something that should have been done 30 years ago because in a nutshell, we have a huge infrastructure deficit. We need hospitals, we need roads, we need bridges, we need alternatives, we need cycleways, we need sewage, we need water pipes, we need electricity, we need alternative electricity, huge infrastructure deficit across all of the sectors. But even if we had billions of dollars, which we don't, throwing money at the problem doesn't seem to be the only answer, because we are very, very poor at getting bang for our buck as was highlighted in the plan. Over the last 20 years, New Zealand has averaged spending about 5.8% of its GDP on infrastructure, which is one of the highest rates of spending in the OECD. Yet we rank near the bottom of the OECD in terms of efficiency of spend and we came fourth to last in terms of asset management. So we spend all this money, get very little for it, and then don't look after it when we have it. I mean look at Moa Point – it's a brilliant example of what happens when you do not spend money on the boring stuff like maintenance and upkeep. The whole country is basically a Moa Point waiting to happen. The plan recommended that 60 cents of every dollar of infrastructure spend should be allocated to renewals and maintenance. A key theme of the plan was that governments have tended to underfund maintenance. That funding's routinely deferred in favour of the “new and shiny”, to quote the authors of the plan. It's like looking at your house and thinking, God, that plumbing needs fixing, that pipe's looking a bit iffy, we really need to paint the house because those weatherboards are going to get rotten otherwise. Oh boring, let's take the kids to Fiji. That's pretty much what we've been doing as a country for far too long. And it's not just one government, it's successive governments, National and Labour, who have let us down. And they've let us down because we have let them let us down. We don't want to hear the news either. Voters are as much to blame as the governments because we don't want to hear the hard messages. The plan says we cannot afford to have everything we want and in fact need as a country and the infrastructure jobs that we do need to do will have to pay for beyond our general taxes. “The reality is asking people to pay for things is difficult and we've pushed the boat out quite a bit as a government on tolling and that's because ultimately roads have to be paid for. And we've tried to move the system towards more of a user pays model and we think that's fair. The original Harbour Bridge in Auckland was of course paid for with a toll and we've just signalled quite clearly that when you're dropping billions and billions of dollars, which is what the second harbour crossing will be, it will be the biggest infrastructure project ever built in New Zealand, that's a project where we do think it will end up being tolled because that's a fair way of paying for the project. “Here's the reality, roads and in fact all infrastructure has to be paid for. It has to be and you can use user charges for that through tolling or through petrol tax or a combination of both, which is essentially what we do. You can borrow for that, but of course that has to be paid for too. Money is not, despite what the Labour Party think, debt is not free. We already have a huge amount of debt that was built up during the Covid years that has to be repaid and we are desperately as a government getting the books back in order so that when the next shock comes along, the next Cyclone Gabrielle or whatever, we're in a position where we could actually deal with it. At the moment of course we're in a very vulnerable situation and the Treasury says we've got to keep the debt levels under control, otherwise our international borrowing costs will go up and then everybody's interest rates will go up and then you're in banana republic territory. Then you can't even meet the debt repayments on what you've already borrowed.” That was Minister for Infrastructure Chris Bishop talking to Mike Hosking this morning. So it's grim reading. As I say, successive governments are at fault and so are we voters. We want everything done for us and we want the government to pay for it. We don't want to pay more in tax though when we want the government to pay for it. We want all the benefits our great grandparents had in the 60s without being...
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    7 min
  • Todd Stephenson: ACT MP on his member's bill that would improve and extend the End of Life Choice Act
    Feb 17 2026

    An ACT MP is looking to improve and extend the End of Life Choice Act.

    Todd Stephenson has proposed a member’s bill that would incorporate all 25 of the recommendations made by the Ministry of Health in their review of the Act.

    He wants to restore the original intent of David Seymour’s earlier bill, addressing the “overly restrictive” six-month prognosis requirement.

    Stephenson told Kerre Woodham some elements of the Act are working really well, but there are others, such as the six-month requirement, that aren’t working and aren’t taking into account some people’s circumstances.

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    8 min