What if rediscovering joy and play could unlock a deeper connection with yourself and those around you? In this lively episode, Kevin and Joe discuss why midlife is the perfect time to let go of seriousness, embrace curiosity, and reclaim the playfulness of childhood.

Kevin Rogers and Joe DiRoma, known for their authentic and insightful takes on midlife challenges, explore how men can integrate joy and creativity into their lives. Their combined experiences in personal development and leadership provide a unique lens on why play is more than just fun—it’s essential for growth.

As men navigate midlife, the pressures of career, family, and societal expectations often leave little room for joy and spontaneity. This episode challenges the narrative that adulthood must be devoid of play, offering actionable ways to reignite curiosity and embrace creativity.

• The Importance of Play in Midlife: Rediscovering activities that bring joy, such as dancing, hiking, or creative hobbies, can provide mental clarity and emotional release.
• Letting Go of Judgment: Fear of how others perceive us often blocks joy. Kevin emphasizes the power of being the first to step on the dance floor or try something new, giving others permission to do the same.
• Curiosity as a Gateway to Joy: Cultivating curiosity can reignite a sense of wonder. Joe highlights how asking questions, exploring interests, and breaking from routines open pathways to creativity.
• The Productivity of Non-Productivity: Structured play or even intentional downtime allows for self-reflection, growth, and recharging.

• Book: Memories, Dreams, Reflections by Carl Jung
• Book: The Middle Passage by James Hollis
• Study: George Land’s NASA creativity study, revealing that 98% of five-year-olds demonstrate genius-level creativity
• Quote: Maya Angelou’s insight on how people remember how you make them feel

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What happens when you’re faced with the reality of redefining your life after a long-term relationship ends? In this deeply personal episode, Kevin and Joe discuss the challenges, lessons, and unexpected growth that come from navigating separation. With honesty and insight, they explore what it takes to find freedom, redefine identity, and embrace a new chapter of life.

Kevin Rogers and Joe DiRoma bring years of wisdom and life experience to their conversations about midlife transitions. Kevin’s candid storytelling and Joe’s grounded philosophical perspectives create a unique dialogue that resonates with men grappling with major life changes.

Separation in midlife can feel like a seismic shift, especially for men who’ve built their lives around stability, routine, and family. Whether it’s divorce, career pivots, or personal reinvention, this episode offers actionable insights and emotional depth for anyone questioning their path forward.

• The Process of Separation: Kevin shares his journey of moving out after a 24-year marriage and the profound shifts in identity, routine, and emotions that followed.
• Grief as Growth: Both hosts emphasize the importance of allowing oneself to grieve the end of a relationship—not as failure, but as part of personal evolution.
• Finding Flow Beyond Fight, Flight, or Freeze: Joe introduces the concept of “flow” as a fourth response to trauma, offering a perspective that helps navigate life’s inevitable disruptions.
• Redefining Space: Kevin highlights how creating a personal space that reflects your identity—whether through art, music, or routine—can help foster healing and self-discovery.
• The Importance of Community: Both Kevin and Joe stress the need for authentic male friendships and mentorship, urging men to reach out to their “Joe” or “Kevin” when life gets overwhelming.

• Books:
• The Middle Passage by James Hollis
• Memories, Dreams, Reflections by Carl Jung
• Music:
• Tom Petty’s Wildflowers
• Leonard Cohen’s Live in London
• Quote: “Our wounds become our wisdom.” – James Hollis

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What does it mean to truly lead, and how do you step into that role intentionally? In this episode, Kevin and Joe tackle the journey of choosing to lead—whether in business, family, or within yourself. They discuss what authentic leadership looks like and share personal stories of how stepping up as leaders has reshaped their lives and relationships.

Kevin Rogers and Joe DiRoma are leaders with extensive backgrounds in business and personal growth. Known for their honest, relatable discussions, they explore the realities of leadership beyond titles, focusing on character, integrity, and the impact of leading by example.

For men navigating midlife, the call to lead can come in many forms. As career paths, family dynamics, and personal goals evolve, there’s a growing awareness that leadership is less about authority and more about guiding with purpose and empathy. This episode explores the steps to embody meaningful leadership and the challenges of balancing self-accountability with empathy for others.

• Intention-Driven Leadership: Real leadership starts with clear, purposeful intentions. Kevin and Joe discuss how knowing your intent is essential to guiding others and setting the foundation for authentic leadership.
• Empathy and Connection: Leaders connect through empathy, understanding, and the courage to have difficult conversations. Building trust and fostering a genuine connection can turn challenges into growth opportunities.
• The Power of Presence: Leadership is not only about big decisions; it’s also about small, everyday actions. From engaging a cashier meaningfully to being the person who steps up in times of need, leadership is built through presence and integrity in each moment.
• Understanding Expectations: Unmet expectations often lead to conflict. Joe highlights the importance of setting clear expectations in both personal and professional settings, noting that holding yourself accountable to those standards is a powerful form of leadership.

• Book:
• Supercommunicator by Charles Dewey (for insights on types of conversations)
• The Middle Passage by James Hollis
• Quotes: Carl Jung and other notable thinkers on leadership and personal growth

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