Matt Pless & Pepe explore many engaging topics. Expect to hear about music & creativity from the time of early humans to the age of social media. Matt shares his extensive journey through the music scene & his time hanging out with Pat The bunny. The discussion also touches on the challenges of navigating between different musical worlds & environments & the impact it has. Matt & Pepe delve into personal experiences of betrayal & rebuilding trust, particularly in the context of addiction. The conversation concludes with insights into Matt's upcoming projects & we play a track of his.

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HIGHLIGHTS:

• Hitting the road coast to coast
• What helped Matt spread his music around the country
• Folk punk french toast tips
• Why small towns can have the best shows
• Childhood interest in The Monkees
• How Matt was perceived as a kid in school
• What it's like to live between worlds in prison & music
• The songwriting process for Matt involves a mix of chaos & order
• Creativity in prison
• Does an artist have a responsibility to the listener first or the art first?
• Audience capture, social media & monetized art
• Birds & their connection to the origins of music
• Music was more impactful & felt differently for pre-civilized peoples
• Pepe connects Dante's Inferno, Pat The Bunny & betrayal
• Matt's views on addiction & betrayal with his brother
• Trimming weed
• Upcoming projects
• "Comin' through the Rye" played

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