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  • 150 | The PA Pivot: Walking Away from Burnout in Medicine and Toward Freedom [Interview with McKenna Morgan, PA-C]
    Feb 7 2025

    In this episode, we sit down with McKenna Morgan, PA-C, who has navigated multiple specialties and career transitions while pursuing financial independence (FI). McKenna shares insights from their journey, starting with early financial lessons learned from her family that included playing the board game Cashflow. We explore how she strategically tackled $168K in student loan debt after graduating from PA school.Through intentional lifestyle choices and a commitment to financial literacy, McKenna made remarkable progress toward financial freedom while still working in healthcare.

    We also discuss the power of downsizing and minimalism, uncovering how these shifts not only reduced her financial stress but also opened doors to new opportunities. McKenna shares her experience stepping taking a sabbatical and ultimately deciding to step away from medicine while finding the courage to walk away from a career and jobs that lead to burnout. Through her story, we see how FI isn’t just about numbers—it’s about creating options, reclaiming time, and prioritizing well-being. Whether you're a physician assistant / physician associate like McKenna, or another healthcare professional seeking more control over your financial and personal life, this conversation is full of inspiration and practical takeaways.

    Resources Mentioned:

    Cashflow board game

    Cashflow for kids

    The Mr. Money Mustache blog post The Shockingly Simple Math Behind Early Retirement

    Connect with McKenna:

    Instagram @mckenna830

    Email: McKenna.truenorth@gmail.com

    Are you just beginning your journey to financial independence and want to learn more? Download your FREE copy of the PA the FI Way Beginner’s Workbook here!

    Website / Blog: pathefiway.com

    Follow along on Instagram: @pathefiway https://www.instagram.com/pathefiway/

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-kat-astrup-mspas-pa-c-175848255/

    Join the private Facebook group created for current and future PAs on their journey to financial independence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pathefiway

    Like the Facebook page to follow along for updates: https://www.facebook.com/pathefiway

    Questions or thoughts about the show? Email pathefiway@gmail.com

    Enjoy the show? You can now support the PA the FI Way podcast through Buy Me a Coffee! Thank you for all of your support! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pathefiway

    Keywords: burnout in healthcare , burnout in medicine , healthcare sabbatical , sabbatical in medicine , physician associate , physician assistant , physician assistant financial independence , physician associate financial independence , physician assistant finances , physician associate finances , physician assistant finance , physician associate finance , physician assistant money , physician associate money , physician assistant school , physician associate school , PA school , PA-S , PA-C , pre-PA , physician assistant student , physician associate student

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    36 min
  • 149 | Purposeful Prosperity: Giving Back Through a Nonprofit [Interview with Johanna Moses, PA-C, MPH]
    Jan 24 2025
    In this episode, we meet Johanna Moses, PA-C, an inspiring guest who shares her journey of starting a nonprofit organization. On your way to financial independence, maybe you've considered which type of nonprofit organization you would like to start or donate your time or wealth to. Doing so would allow your wealth to have purpose and impact for the causes you care deeply about. Johanna is the Founder of a 501(c) 3 nonprofit, The Ephraim Foundation International, an organization whose mission is to empower, educate, and encourage children and families in impoverished areas of Sri Lanka through educational programs and micro-business support. In this episode, she shares how her nonprofit supports entrepreneurship and sustainability with those it helps. Johanna is also the author of the children’s book series "Little Evie’s Big Dreams". This story is not just about a girl who dreams; it's about a girl who brings her dreams to life, adding color not only to her canvas but to the lives of those around her. A tale that celebrates the beauty of dreams, the power of imagination, and the endless possibilities that come when we dare to create and innovate. Johanna has been a practicing PA for over 12 years now and has been primarily in hospital medicine, internal medicine, urgent care and now post-acute care. Johanna also started a podcast to encourage and empower women through inspiring and impactful conversations that dive deep into stories and journeys of Medicine, Motherhood, and Missions. She loves encouraging others to dream big and find inspiration and hope. Check out the Medicine Motherhood Missions Podcast:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/medicine-motherhood-missions/id1759759710Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/35VYJvIJuLWUgjTZIoGWGR?si=9cb437e092c44b0b Learn more about her 501(c)3 nonprofit; The Ephraim Foundation International: www.ephraimfoundation.org Connect with Johanna: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/medicine_motherhood_missions/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theephraimfoundation Order her children's books: Little Evie’s Big Dreams: The Painter; Sharing Joy & Kindness: https://amzn.to/40nuLTM Little Evie's Big Dreams: The Kuku Bike Repair Shop; Sharing Ideas & Working Together: https://amzn.to/4hrgsEK Are you just beginning your journey to financial independence and want to learn more? Download your FREE copy of the PA the FI Way Beginner’s Workbook here! Website / Blog: pathefiway.com Follow along on Instagram: @pathefiway https://www.instagram.com/pathefiway/ Connect with Kat on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-kat-astrup-mspas-pa-c-175848255/ Join the private Facebook group created for current and future PAs on their journey to financial independence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pathefiway Like the Facebook page to follow along for updates: https://www.facebook.com/pathefiway Enjoy the show? You can now support the PA the FI Way podcast through Buy Me a Coffee! Thank you for all of your support! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pathefiway
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    49 min
  • 148 | The Purpose Code: Interview with Jordan Grumet, MD
    Jan 10 2025

    What is my purpose in life? That is a BIG and heavy question that most of us will ask- often many times throughout our lives!

    Today’s returning guest, Jordan Grumet, MD, shares about his new book, The Purpose Code: How to Unlock Meaning, Maximize Happiness, and Leave a Lasting Legacy. He reviews the difference between "big P" Purpose and "little p" purpose, and how pursuing (P)urpose often leads to anxiety and disillusionment while pursuing (p)urpose will lead to connection and lasting legacy.

    This episode is packed with gems like reviewing the difference between meaning and purpose in our lives, how to get off the achievement treadmill in life, and finding the purpose anchors in your life. Take a listen to help you identify your purpose in the new year!

    If you enjoyed this episode, take a listen to Episode 81 where Jordan shares about his last book, Taking Stock!

    Resources Mentioned:

    jordangrumet.com

    earnandinvest.com

    Are you just beginning your journey to financial independence and want to learn more? Download your FREE copy of the PA the FI Way Beginner’s Workbook here!

    Website / Blog: pathefiway.com

    Follow along on Instagram: @pathefiway https://www.instagram.com/pathefiway/

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-kat-astrup-mspas-pa-c-175848255/

    Join the private Facebook group created for current and future PAs on their journey to financial independence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pathefiway

    Like the Facebook page to follow along for updates: https://www.facebook.com/pathefiway

    Enjoy the show? You can now support the PA the FI Way podcast through Buy Me a Coffee! Thank you for all of your support! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pathefiway

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    30 min
  • 147 | 2024 Wrapped: Celebrating Your Wins!
    Dec 27 2024

    With the end of 2024 in sight, let's take a moment to reflect on and celebrate your money, medicine, and mindset wins of the year!

    Resources Mentioned:

    Interested in learning more about how to become a PA millionaire within 5 to10 years after your graduation? Learn more about WealthRx here

    Questions or thoughts about the show? Email pathefiway@gmail.com

    Are you just beginning your journey to financial independence and want to learn more? Download your FREE copy of the PA the FI Way Beginner’s Workbook here!

    Website / Blog: pathefiway.com

    Enjoy the show? You can now support the PA the FI Way podcast through Buy Me a Coffee! Thank you for all of your support! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pathefiway

    Follow along on Instagram: @pathefiway https://www.instagram.com/pathefiway/

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-kat-astrup-mspas-pa-c-175848255/

    Join the private Facebook group created for current and future PAs on their journey to financial independence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pathefiway

    Like the Facebook page to follow along for updates: https://www.facebook.com/pathefiway

    Keywords: physician associate , physician assistant , physician assistant financial independence , physician associate financial independence , physician assistant finances , physician associate finances , physician assistant finance , physician associate finance , physician assistant money , physician associate money , physician assistant school , physician associate school , PA school , PA-S , PA-C , pre-PA , physician assistant student , physician associate student

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    19 min
  • 146 | Invest Beyond Your Dollars: Interview with Kayla Bassett, PA-C
    Nov 29 2024

    In this inspiring episode our guest Kayla Bassett, a PA ( physician associate / physician assistant ), real estate investor, and Wealth Coach explores her journey toward financial independence and holistic growth.

    We also dive into Kayla’s passion for real estate investing, including her mid-term rental. Kayla opens up about the challenges and rewards of this venture, offering valuable insights for aspiring investors. She shares how she handled a way worse situation than the ever asked question of "what if the toilet gets clogged at 3am"?

    Additionally, we discuss the perfectionist mindset and its potential to lead to analysis paralysis. Kayla shares the strategies she has used to overcome self-doubt and limiting beliefs to be able to take action and build momentum.

    Beyond money, Kayla highlights the importance of investing in other key areas of life, such as physical health, mental health, and spiritual health.

    Finally, Kayla reflects on her role as a Wealth Coach for the WealthRx program and the personal growth she has experienced while helping others on their way to being PA Millionaires.

    Tune in for actionable tips, relatable stories, and encouragement to pursue your version of wealth—both financial and beyond!

    Connect with Kayla on IG: @the.health.investor

    Resources Mentioned:

    Interested in learning more about how to become a PA millionaire within 5 to10 years after your graduation? Watch the PA Millionaire Roadmap video to learn more.

    Still a PA student or searching for your first PA job? Check out the Happy PA Academy

    www.biggerpockets.com

    Questions or thoughts about the show? Email pathefiway@gmail.com

    Are you just beginning your journey to financial independence and want to learn more? Download your FREE copy of the PA the FI Way Beginner’s Workbook here!

    Website / Blog: pathefiway.com

    Enjoy the show? You can now support the PA the FI Way podcast through Buy Me a Coffee! Thank you for all of your support! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pathefiway

    Follow along on Instagram: @pathefiway https://www.instagram.com/pathefiway/

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-kat-astrup-mspas-pa-c-175848255/

    Join the private Facebook group created for current and future PAs on their journey to financial independence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pathefiway

    Like the Facebook page to follow along for updates: https://www.facebook.com/pathefiway

    Keywords: physician associate , physician assistant , physician assistant financial independence , physician associate financial independence , physician assistant finances , physician associate finances , physician assistant finance , physician associate finance , physician assistant money , physician associate money , physician assistant school , physician associate school , PA school , PA-S , PA-C , pre-PA , physician assistant student , physician associate student

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    45 min
  • 145 | Experiences Over Stuff: The Key to More Happiness
    Nov 15 2024

    In today’s episode, we explore why spending on experiences can bring deeper, longer-lasting happiness than buying things. Research shows that the thrill of new possessions quickly fades as we adapt to them, while experiences stay with us as cherished memories. Experiences also contribute to our personal identity and growth, making us feel more connected and fulfilled. Tune in to learn why investing in memories is one of the best choices you can make!

    Interested in learning more about how to become a PA millionaire within 10 years after graduating? Watch the PA Millionaire Roadmap video to learn more.

    Questions or thoughts about the show? Email pathefiway@gmail.com

    Are you just beginning your journey to financial independence and want to learn more? Download your FREE copy of the PA the FI Way Beginner’s Workbook here!

    Website / Blog: pathefiway.com

    Enjoy the show? You can now support the PA the FI Way podcast through Buy Me a Coffee! Thank you for all of your support! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pathefiway

    Follow along on Instagram: @pathefiway https://www.instagram.com/pathefiway/

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-kat-astrup-mspas-pa-c-175848255/

    Join the private Facebook group created for current and future PAs on their journey to financial independence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pathefiway

    Like the Facebook page to follow along for updates: https://www.facebook.com/pathefiway

    Keywords: physician associate , physician assistant , physician assistant financial independence , physician associate financial independence , physician assistant finances , physician associate finances , physician assistant finance , physician associate finance , physician assistant money , physician associate money , physician assistant school , physician associate school , PA school , PA-S , PA-C , pre-PA , physician assistant student , physician associate student

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    14 min
  • 144 | Escape the Clinic: Interview with Katie Bean, DMS, PA-C
    Oct 18 2024

    In today's episode, Katie Bean, DMS, PA-C shares how she guides physician associates and other healthcare providers to create thriving businesses that allow them to escape clinical practice. Katie shares how her own journey as a PA in a variety of specialties and academia led to her starting her first business with her friend and colleague and now her second business on her own.

    You'll hear about some of the best parts of starting a business as well as some of the challenges. You'll also learn why PAs and other clinicians tend to make great entrepreneurs and business owners as well as some of the common mindset blocks you may encounter along the way.

    Take a listen for inspiration to start your own business to help you create more wealth, freedom, and fulfillment in your life!

    Connect with Katie:

    Escape the Clinic Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/escape-the-clinic/id1761218364

    Instagram: @escapetheclinic - https://instagram.com/escapetheclinic

    Email: katie@escapetheclinic.com

    Free 3 Steps to Creating Your Profitable Business Idea Workbook -https://escapetheclinic.myflodesk.com/3stepstoidea

    Are you just beginning your journey to financial independence and want to learn more? Download your FREE copy of the PA the FI Way Beginner’s Workbook here!

    Website / Blog: pathefiway.com

    Enjoy the show? You can now support the PA the FI Way podcast through Buy Me a Coffee! Thank you for all of your support! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pathefiway

    Follow along on Instagram: @pathefiway https://www.instagram.com/pathefiway/

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-kat-astrup-mspas-pa-c-175848255/

    Join the private Facebook group created for current and future PAs on their journey to financial independence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pathefiway

    Like the Facebook page to follow along for updates: https://www.facebook.com/pathefiway

    Keywords: physician associate , physician assistant , physician assistant financial independence , physician associate financial independence , physician assistant finances , physician associate finances , physician assistant finance , physician associate finance , physician assistant money , physician associate money , physician assistant school , physician associate school , PA school , PA-S , PA-C , pre-PA , physician assistant student , physician associate student

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    34 min
  • 143 | How to Increase Your Income and Freedom as a Travel PA: Interview with Fedna Morency, PA-C
    Sep 20 2024

    Have you ever wondered if there are PA jobs where you could work less and earn more all while exploring different states throughout our country? Travel PA jobs (aka locum tenens) may be just the change you're looking for to provide extra freedom on your journey to financial independence. Take a listen as Fedna shares about her experience over the past several years as a travel physician associate / physician assistant working in orthopedics. We discuss the benefits and challenges that these types of roles may bring. If you're thinking that becoming a travel PA may be a good fit for you, check out The Travel PA Course to receive further support from Fedna.

    Connect with Fedna: Instagram: @travelingpa_c LinkedIn: Fedna Morency Website: www.thetravellingpa.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@travelingpa_c The Travel PA Course: https://www.thetravellingpa.com/becoming-a-travel-pa-registration Free Ultimate Guide to Becoming a Travel PA E-Book: https://www.thetravellingpa.com/ebook-sign-up-ultimate-guide-to-become-a-pa

    Questions or thoughts about the show? Email pathefiway@gmail.com

    Are you just beginning your journey to financial independence and want to learn more? Download your FREE copy of the PA the FI Way Beginner’s Workbook here!

    Website / Blog: pathefiway.com

    Enjoy the show? You can now support the PA the FI Way podcast through Buy Me a Coffee! Thank you for all of your support! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pathefiway

    Follow along on Instagram: @pathefiway https://www.instagram.com/pathefiway/

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-kat-astrup-mspas-pa-c-175848255/

    Join the private Facebook group created for current and future PAs on their journey to financial independence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/pathefiway

    Like the Facebook page to follow along for updates: https://www.facebook.com/pathefiway

    Keywords: travel PA , traveling PA , travel PA-C , travel physician assistant , travel physician associate , locum tenens , locum tenens PA , ortho PA , ortho PA-C , orthopedics PA , physician associate , physician assistant , physician assistant financial independence , physician associate financial independence , physician assistant finances , physician associate finances , physician assistant finance , physician associate finance , physician assistant money , physician associate money , physician assistant school , physician associate school , PA school , PA-S , PA-C , pre-PA , physician assistant student , physician associate student

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    44 min