The Saints played good football for 30 minutes, but that's about it. New Orleans lost control of everything in the second half, and it was on both sides of the ball. Ross and John put the season to bed and break down the season finale against the Bucs, future opponents and much more.

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It's the regular season finale for the Saints, as they put a disappointing season to bed in Tampa. Ross and John discuss things to look for, Spencer Rattler's final start and if New Orleans even has a chance for the upset. Also, we tackle the head coaching rumors, with Aaron Glenn being at the center of it all. Is Mickey Loomis is the one to lead the charge? Here's what we think.

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If the Saints needed any further evidence of what is wrong with their team, then they got in the Superdome finale. The Raiders came to down and were supposed to be the inferior opponent. However, New Orleans took down that trophy with ease. Ross and John break down the bad from Week 17.

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The Saints are in the Superdome for the final time in 2024, and they host the Raiders in Week 17. What does New Orleans need to do to beat an inferior opponent? A lot of it centers around Spencer Rattler and how comfortable Klint Kubiak can make him. Ross and John also talk about the Saints coaching search, the previewing candidates and what likely happens for them.

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The Saints might have turned in their worst performance in years in the national spotlight. Nothing went right and they looked abysmal. Remember when New Orleans was a team that wouldn't get shut out? Ross and John break what little action went down and then hit on the many things that went wrong.

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Spencer Rattler leads the Saints into a frigid Green Bay and looks to upset the Packers. Can New Orleans pull it off without Alvin Kamara and the rookie leading the charge? Ross and John preview what has to go right for Darren Rizzi and company in all phases of the game, plus some big updates on players.

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The Saints were two totally different teams in each half, and the second half one nearly pulled off the upset against the Commanders. Join Ross and John as they talk through what went wrong for Jake Haener and what went right for Spencer Rattler. All that and plenty more from an interesting Week 15.

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Jake Haener will make his first start of his young career, and the Commanders are undoubtedly a tough draw. However, Haener is confident and looks ready to lead the Saints here. What does he need and New Orleans to do to help upset Washington? Ross and John dive into a Week 15 game preview.

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