Rest & remuneration. Elsa and I tackle some big questions about working in this episode. We talk about class, doing less, the wildness that occurs in the not-for-profit sector, anti-capitalist strategies in this v capitalist world, paying people for their labour, the ethics of making money doing social justice work, the tea on being a racial justice educator, how being poor can be an aesthetic within social justice spaces, rest, joy, Jewishness and much more!

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