“So when you think about human-centered leadership skills and business-centered leadership skills and meeting your organization and meeting your people where they are, right now, they need a heavy dose of the human-centered leadership skills. They need nurturing, support, compassion. They need someone that can model self-care skills. So when do we ever as CEOs think about how to model self-care? Like that’s a conversation that hasn’t been happening.”

In this episode of the Moments with M3 Leadership Podcast, host Mary Malone McCarthy welcomes to the show Suzi Sosa, Co-Founder, and CEO of Verb, a learning, and development company transforming leadership training at work. In today’s conversation, Suzi recounts her journey from working for the federal government to a fintech startup and finally discovering her true passion, social entrepreneurship. We discuss the tenets of conscious capitalism and the responsibility of a CEO and their call to greatness in being a conscious leader. She shares how the conscious capitalism community believes that capitalism has so much inherent good to bring to humankind in terms of wealth creation and opportunity, and how capitalism is part of the solution. We also discuss the need for leaders today to be equipped with human-centered leadership skills in addition to the regular manager fundamentals, and how learning programs can incorporate skills like self-awareness, empathy, purpose, and inclusion into classic “rhythms of management” training. As we close out the episode Suzi opens up about a difficult situation she and her company faced and the impact it had on her perspective. In her experience, she shares how there is no more room in her leadership to take care of people that were previously outside of her radar, and how important it is to stay open and stay curious.