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💰This episode is sponsored by Corning Museum of Glass!

Hello Lightning Tamers, Percy here, this is episode number 64! In today's podcast, I’m excited to welcome Rïse Peacock, an artist, curator, and educator with over a decade of experience in the educational and nonprofit art sectors. Currently the first Curatorial Fellow of Postwar and Contemporary Glass at the Corning Museum of Glass. Rïse approaches curating, teaching, and artmaking from an interdisciplinary perspective, with a specific focus on queer histories, material culture, and luminous phenomena. They have curated notable exhibitions such as Big Mood and the Women Create Biennial in Jamestown, NY. Today, we’ll dive into Rïse’s curatorial work, their artistic journey, and their fascination with light-based art, including the significance of Geissler tubes CMoG's collection.

Welcome to the podcast Rïse Peacock!

Music Credits

• Preview - Retro by ONE

• The opening theme -Taming Lightning by Trav B. Ryan

• Spoonsor - Good2Go by ONE

• Credits - Walking by Ras-Hop

Episode Time Stamps

[0:31] Sponsored by the Corning Museum

[1:52] Introducing Rise Peacock

[4:13] The Role of a Curatorial Fellow

[7:59] Exhibition Development and Artist Advocacy

[9:31] Understanding Geissler Tubes

[15:09] Historical Significance of Geyser Tubes

[19:58] Geissler Tubes and Artistic Practice

[24:02] The Intersection of Art and Curation

[27:32] Exploring Luminous Phenomena

[32:24] Materiality and Light in Art

[36:51] Navigating Interdisciplinary Practices

[41:36] Curatorial Challenges with Light Works

[47:14] Merging Art and Curation

[49:50] Dismantling the Curatorial Lore

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Guest Instagram: @dani.kaes

Hello, Lightning Tamers! Percy here, and welcome to episode 63 of the Taming Lightning Podcast. Today, I’m thrilled to chat with “Dani” Kaes, a talented light artist and educator based in Seattle, Washington.

With a degree in Biochemistry from the University of Puget Sound, Dani brings a scientific lens to her neon practice. She’s also a passionate educator, deeply committed to open access to information, ensuring the neon community continues to grow and evolve, sharing her knowledge at places like Pilchuck Glass School, the Museum of Neon Art, and the Glass Art Society.

In this episode, we’ll take a lightning round of different topics—like how different gases influence the colors we see in neon art, why color theory is such a big part of the process, and nd the science behind vacuum systems and gas mixtures. We’ll also get into some of the more technical topics like getters (or whatever Dani prefers to call them), Penning mixtures, and ionization efficiency—but don’t worry, Dani has a knack for making it all easy to follow.

We’ll also hear how her scientific background has shaped her artistic approach, the questions in neon she’s still curious to explore, and—of course—we’ll talk The Boy, her energetic furball of feline who’s always by her side.

So, settle in for a great conversation with someone who’s not just making neon art but also advancing the craft with curiosity, humor, and a scientific edge.

Welcome to the podcast, Dani Kaes!

Time Stamps

• [0:28] Introduction to Dani Kays
• [4:19] Dani's Artistic Journey
• [7:01] Exploring Color Theory
• [11:06] The Science of Gases
• [16:41]Understanding O-Rings
• [19:17] Getters in Neon Production
• [22:59] The Impact of Temperature
• [26:09] Gas Mixtures and Their Effects
• [31:12] The Boy: Dani's Feline Companion
• [39:48] Closing Thoughts and Future Episodes

Music credits

• Preview - Retro by ONE

• The opening theme -Taming Lightning by Trav B. Ryan

• Credits - Walking by Ras-Hop

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Guest Instagram: @willcox.studio

Hello Lightning Tamers, Percy here, and this is episode number 62. In today's podcast, I'll be joined by Jacob Willcox a young and experienced neon bender, artist, and educator from Tacoma, Washington. Jacob's journey with glass and light began in 2012 through the Hilltop Artists program. He went on to earn his BFA with concentrations in glass and neon from Alfred University in 2021. Currently, Jacob works in sales at a sign shop, where he continues to blend his artistic insights with his professional role.

So, get ready to dive into an illuminating conversation as we explore Jacob's artistic journey, the balance between creativity and business, and his unique perspective on the future of neon in the modern world of signage.

Welcome to the podcast Jacob Willcox!

Time Stamps

• [0:54] Introduction to Neon and Jacob's Journey
• [2:17] Class Reflections and Experiences
• [6:46] Transition to Professional Neon Bending
• [10:36] The Allure of Neon
• [13:31] Balancing Multiple Roles
• [20:47] Bridging Art and Signage
• [23:29] Perspectives on LED vs. Neon
• [27:53] Future Visions for Neon Art
• [29:54] The Importance of Community Accessibility
• [32:31] Conclusion and Gratitude

Music credits

• Preview - Retro by ONE

• The opening theme -Taming Lightning by Trav B. Ryan

• Credits - Walking by Ras-Hop

• Blog: www.taminglightning.net

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Guest: www.studioswine.com

Instagram: @studioswine

Hello lightning Tamers this is episode number 61. And in today's podcast, I'll be joined by Alexander Groves one half of the duo known as Studio Swine. Alex and their partner Azuza Murakami had decided to make this arrangement to manage tending to the lovely family they are raising. Just incase anyone is wondering!

Who are Studio Swine?

The SWINE in Studio Swine, an acronym for "Super Wide Interdisciplinary New Explorers," is a pioneering collective founded in 2011 by Azusa Murakami (JP) and Alexander Groves (UK). Their collaborative journey traverses the realms of art, design, and technology, forging new frontiers in the exploration of light, materials, and human experience.

In this episode, we'll dive into the mesmerizing world of neon and plasma artworks, exploring Studio Swine's fascination with light and materials. From their thought-provoking installations like "Wave. Particle. Duplex." to their upcoming neon installation in South Korea, Alexander will share their insights, inspirations, and the challenges of working at the intersection of art and technology.

Join us as we unravel the creative journey of Studio Swine, where innovation meets imagination and the possibilities are limitless.

Welcome to the podcast Alexander!

Time Stamps

• [0:53] Meet Studio Swine
• [2:58] The Art of Curiosity
• [7:16] Exploring Materiality and Audience
• [7:48] The Journey of Studio Swine
• [10:19] Ephemeral Tech Explained
• [26:33] Collaborating with Experts
• [27:53] The Community of Neon Artists
• [29:18] The Allure of Plasma
• [31:59] The Power of Experience
• [40:17] Under a Flowing Field
• [49:36] Balancing Safety and Creativity
• [59:28] The Art of Learning
• [1:05:48] Taming the Invisible World

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Guest: www.Kacielees.com

Instagram: @kacielees and @neonprimer

Hello lightning Tamers this is episode number 60. Today, we have the pleasure of diving into the fascinating world of light and art with the incredible Kacie Lees. Born in St. Louis in 1986, Kacie has emerged as a prominent figure in the art scene, leaving her mark in Brooklyn, Chicago, and Los Angeles.

With a BFA from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago and an MFA from the School of Visual Arts in New York, Kacie's artistic journey is nothing short of inspiring. As a dedicated teaching artist at NYU and SAIC, in addition to Museum of Neon Art and Urban Glass, she not only creates mesmerizing works but also imparts her knowledge to the next generation of artists.

Her recently published book, "Neon Primer: A Handbook on Light Construction," has become a cornerstone in understanding the intricate world of neon bending. In this episode, we'll explore Kacie's creative process, the influences behind her work, and the profound impact of light on art. Stay tuned for a captivating conversation with Kacie Lees, a true luminary in the world of contemporary art.

Welcome to the podcast Kacie Lees ...!

Time Stamps

• [6:48] Unveiling Kacies's Artistic Influences
• [16:38] Crafting the Neon Primer
• [28:39] Exploring Installation Techniques
• [29:18] Balancing Teaching and Artistry
• [34:14] Artistic Inspiration
• [35:33] The Glow of Neon
• [36:03] Cultural Significance of Neon
• [38:17] Neon in History
• [46:05] Neon in Urban Spaces
• [48:01] Inspiring Interactions
• [53:04] Future Projects
• [1:01:58] Neon Rituals

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Hello lightning Tamers this is episode number 59. And in today's podcast,, I'll be joined by Greg Wilson, the President of Alta Robbins, a leading provider of precision engineering solutions, known for their high quality valves. With a wealth of knowledge in valve engineering and a deep understanding of the needs of the neon industry, Greg is here to share his insights and expertise with us.

Get ready for a deep dive into Alta Robbins valves, where we will learn Alta Robbins connection to Neon while understanding the intricacies one of the most important parts on your neon gas system. This include company history, choice of valve, troubleshooting and repair questions. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out in the world of neon and plasma, this episode promises to be enlightening and informative.

For our Patreon subscribers a transcript will be available for this episode! If your not yet a patreon member, you can sign up for 7-day trial with access to additional Taming Lightning content.

Welcome to Podcast Greg Wilson!

Time Stamps

[2:03] What is Alta Robbins and where did it begin?

[9:47] What interested you to work in this company or work for your father?

[13:42] Is there any sort of advantage[difference] between the 1/4npt and 1/8npt port sizes for the valves?

[15:39] Discuss the significance / difference between Brass and Stainless-Steel valve bodies.

[17:26] Considerations when using fittings on Alta Robbins

[20:39] On the website, one the defining features of Alta Robbins is the following statement "The Difference is in the Seat" Could you help me and the audience understand why that is so important to the design?

[26:21] How does Alta Robbins ensure the reliability and durability of its valves in both high-vacuum and high-pressure environments? What is the 4-to-1 safety factor?

[29:25] One of the qualities that I adamire is that Alta Robbins Valves are simple to service. When is it recommended to replace individual parts of a valve versus replacing the entire unit to maintain optimal performance?

[34:51] Troubleshooting or explaination for the feeling like having to make more turns on the valve before seeing the metering of gas.

[37:58] Greg elaborates on a built in safety feature that better explains why it takes more that one turn before opening the valve.

[41:41] There's an arrow on the outside of the valve, and the question that you have been asked before was like, does it matter the direction of that valve in its use?

[45:40] Soft Goods Kit vs Bonnet Assembly, when do you replace parts and when to buy a new valve?

[49:50] What is Alta Robbins thoughts on partnering with Taming Lightning?

[52:13] A fun fact from Greg Wilson and his thoughts on and service to neon.

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Adam smo: www.smoglass.com

• ig: @smoglasstx

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Hello Lightning Tamers this is episode number 58. And in today's podcast, I'll be joined by Adam Smo

Adam Smolesnky aka Adam Smo is a San Antonio-based glassblower known for working at the torch in borosilicate glass, he creates intricately detailed and colorfully crafted marbles, pendants, drinking glasses, pipes, and sculptures, and as of the recent few years has been diligently sharpening and pushing his skills in neon.

Welcome back to the Podcast Adam!

For our listeners, I met Adam back in 2019 on the 4th of July weekend for Glas Inaugural Plasma Parley featured on this podcast in ep 17, where Nate Shaeffer and Bruce Suba hosted a plasma get together to learn and talk about plasma. Adam was the first co-learner I had interviewed from the parley, amongst many who had the skills to not only manipulate the glass to make amazing vessels for plasma and fabricate their own manifold but most importantly the mindset to put aside previous knowledge and be completely open learning. 

Musci Credits:

• Preview - Retro by ONE 

• The opening theme -Taming Lightning by Trav B. Ryan   

• Sponsor - Good2Go - ONE

• Credits - Walking by Ras-Hop

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Mark Ditzler: www.markditzler.com

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In today's podcast, recorded July 2023, I'll be joined by Mark Ditzler. Who has been hospital in my visit to the seattle area, after the class I taught at Pilchuck this summer with Harriet Schwarzrock.

Mark Ditzler is a trained industrial designer, ceramic artist, and self-taught fused glass expert based in Seattle. With over 30 years of experience, he crafts kilnformed glass for commissions and galleries, blending clay techniques seamlessly into his work. Mark has taught fusing classes both locally and nationwide, with a notable tenure at Corning Museum of Glass. His expertise spans neon tube bending in the 1980s, pioneering fused plasma projects with James Nowark Studio in the 1990s, and a collaborative residency at Corning focused on plasma with Wayne Strattman (2017). His work has graced prestigious venues like Bellevue Art Museum (2018) and Hong Kong Science Museum (2019). Currently, Mark is innovating in plasma, creating a bespoke “hood ornament” for a Corvette in L.A. and pioneering flat “neon” using cutting-edge kiln-forming techniques and glass cutting technology. 

Music Credits: 

• Preview - Retro by ONE 
• The opening theme -Taming Lightning by Trav B. Ryan   
• Sponsor - Good2Go by ONE 
• Credits - Walking by Ras-Hop