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  • Do I Have Climate Anxiety?
    Feb 8 2025

    Given the stark repurcussions resulting from the recent US election, this series is a refresher for all people dealing with anxiety and especially climate anxiety.

    With guest, Eric Windhorst, a registered psychotherapist specializing in eco-psychology we discuss the concept of climate or eco anxiety and cover the following main points.

    Understanding Eco Anxiety: A real, deep-seated dread or despair about the state of our planet. It's a term that's been gaining traction since 2017, reflecting our growing awareness of the emotional toll of climate change.

    Who's Most Affected?: Interestingly, Eric pointed out that eco anxiety seems to hit younger generations harder. Teens and 20-somethings, who are growing up amidst constant discussions about climate change, often grapple with a sense of instability and uncertainty about their future as do those persons up to around 45 years old.

    The Ecological Self: We delved into the idea of the 'ecological self' - the interconnectedness of all beings and the planet. It's a concept that's echoed in quantum physics and spiritual traditions, pointing to a profound sense of oneness.

    The Challenge of Open-Heartedness: Living with an open heart in a world full of pain and suffering is no easy task. Eric emphasized the importance of processing this pain, as it paves the way for compassion and meaningful action.

    Reconnecting with the World: We discussed the work of Joanna Macy on reconnecting with the world's pain and the need for support in this process. Eric believes that opening our hearts and reconnecting with each other and the land is the way forward, despite the pain and grief involved.

    You can find Eric Windhorst most days here and socially on Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn

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    The 5Cs podcast, book and community are about shining a light on a better path. Think of it as a global village of business people giving Planet Earth a hand up. You can find Charlene Norman on LinkedIn and here. Consider subscribing for more thoughts from the 5Cs on Substack.

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    15 min
  • A Recycling Transformation: From Gold Mining to Regenerating Platinum.
    Feb 1 2025

    This is a case study with Don Weatherbee of Regenx about taking traditional processes, adapting them for modernapplications, reinventing a corporation and pioneering a new industry. Interested in investing with them. Start here for your due diligence.

    Innovating for Sustainability: Lessons from Regenx on Continuous Improvement and Knowledge Monetization

    This episode is a treasure trove of insights for business leaders and executives looking to innovate and adapt in the face of climate change and sustainability challenges. Some of the key takeaways covered --

    -The Power of Continuous Improvement

    -Incremental Changes Lead to Big Results: Continuous improvement isn't about making massive changes overnight. Instead, it's about making small, consistent improvements that add up over time. This approach can lead to significant advancements in efficiency, sustainability, and overall business performance.

    -Foster a Culture of Innovation: Encourage your team to constantly look for ways to improve processes and products. This can be achieved through regular brainstorming sessions, feedback loops, and a culture that rewards innovation.

    -Measure and Adjust: Implement metrics to track the effectiveness of changes. Use this data to make informed decisions and adjust strategies as needed.

    The Journey of Regenx: From Gold Mining to Recycling

    Don shares the backstory of Regenesis, detailing how the company transitioned from a traditional gold mining exploration firm to a pioneering business focused on recycling platinum from diesel catalytic converters.

    Key Insights from the Regenx Journey:

    Adaptability is Key

    Leverage Existing Expertise

    Innovative Technology

    Strategies for Knowledge Monetization:

    -Identify Valuable Knowledge:

    -Develop Proprietary Solutions

    -Collaborate and Share

    The 5Cs podcast, book and community are about shining a light on a better path. Think of it as a global village of business people giving Planet Earth a hand up. You can find Charlene Norman on LinkedIn and here. Consider subscribing for more thoughts from the 5Cs on Substack.

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    17 min
  • Don’t Just Wing It: How to Avoid Flying Blind
    Jan 25 2025
    This final episode of the series with Peter Suasso de Lima de Prado of Bluespar is an eye opener. Peter has also written and published a white paper about navigating the legislations that impact businesses. And you can download and read it here. The episode highlights are:1. Engaging with NGOsFor many businesses, the idea of engaging with Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) can be intimidating. However, Pieter emphasizes that this engagement is crucial for enhancing sustainability efforts.Understanding the Process: Pieter acknowledges that while the process may seem daunting, it is essential for businesses to engage with NGOs to enhance their sustainability efforts.Multi-Stakeholder Initiatives: He highlights the success of multi-stakeholder initiatives in the Netherlands, where companies, unions, governments, and NGOs collaborate on specific value chains. These initiatives provide a platform for knowledge sharing, best practices, and collective action.Actionable Advice:Start by identifying relevant NGOs in your industry.Attend industry conferences and forums where NGOs are present to initiate contact.Consider joining existing multi-stakeholder initiatives to benefit from collective knowledge and resources.2. Real-Life Example: Collaboration in the Metals Value ChainPieter shares a compelling case study from his experience as the head of sustainability for a steelmaker, illustrating the power of collaboration.Identifying Risks: In a multi-stakeholder initiative focused on the metals value chain, they identified operational health and safety risks in mines in Peru and Bolivia.Collaborative Efforts: The collaboration involved various stakeholders, including local unions and mining companies, to address safety concerns and improve conditions for workers.Actionable Advice:Conduct a thorough risk assessment of your supply chain.Engage with local stakeholders to understand their concerns and perspectives.Develop a collaborative action plan to address identified risks.3. Building Trust and CommunicationTrust and clear communication are the bedrock of successful collaborations. Pieter emphasizes the importance of establishing trust among stakeholders.Setting Ground Rules: Setting clear ground rules for communication and addressing concerns upfront is crucial for successful collaboration.Understanding Dynamics: Companies should invest time in understanding the dynamics of group processes and engage in honest conversations to build trust.Actionable Advice:Establish a communication protocol at the outset of any collaboration.Schedule regular check-ins to ensure all parties are aligned and any issues are promptly addressed.Foster an environment of transparency and openness.4. Timeframe for Building RelationshipsBuilding trust and relationships takes time, especially in the context of multi-stakeholder initiatives.Start Small: Pieter advises businesses to take their time, especially if they are new to multi-stakeholder initiatives. Starting with smaller collaborations can help gain experience and gradually expand engagement.Long-Term Commitment: Building relationships can take years, but the effort is worthwhile for long-term sustainability goals.Actionable Advice:Begin with pilot projects to build trust and demonstrate commitment.Be patient and persistent in your engagement efforts.Celebrate small wins to build momentum and confidence among stakeholders.5. Expertise and SupportNavigating complex sustainability issues often requires external expertise.Bringing in Experts: Pieter recommends that businesses bring in external expertise when dealing with complex issues that arise during due diligence.Cross-Functional Teams: He stresses the importance of having a cross-functional team involved in sustainability efforts, including legal, HR, supply chain, and compliance professionals.Actionable Advice:Identify and engage with external experts who can provide guidance on specific issues.Form a cross-functional sustainability team within your organization.Ensure continuous training and development for your team to stay updated on best practices.6. Continuous ImprovementSustainability is an ongoing journey, and businesses should view it as a process of continuous improvement.Gap Analysis: Pieter advises conducting a gap analysis to identify strengths and weaknesses, followed by designing a roadmap for progress.Building on Existing Efforts: Many companies already have foundational elements in place, such as responsible sourcing programs and community engagement initiatives.Actionable Advice:Regularly review and update your sustainability strategy.Conduct periodic gap analyses to identify areas for improvement.Leverage existing programs and initiatives to build a comprehensive sustainability framework.7. Final ThoughtsPeter concludes by acknowledging the challenges of navigating business rights and human rights issues but emphasizes that with the right intentions and efforts, companies can make meaningful ...
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    19 min
  • Navigating Supply Chain Compliance and Human Rights Standards
    Jan 18 2025

    This third episode with Peter Suasso de Lima de Prado of Bluespar gets into the details of understanding how continuous improvement is the perfect way to integrate rights into business operations and specifically Supply Chain Operations. Peter is a lawyer, supply chain executive and sustainability expert and has written a white paper about navigating the world of sustainability legisltation which you can download and read here. This episode covers these

    Key Takeaways:
    • Invest in Supply Chain Management: Understand the financial costs and benefits, and adopt a mindset of continuous improvement.
    • Hire Experienced Consultants: Look for consultants with a blend of business acumen and human rights expertise, and focus on a training-first approach.
    • Navigate the Regulatory Landscape: Stay informed about regulatory requirements and pay attention to deeper supply chain risks.
    • Collaborate with NGOs: Leverage local expertise and build long-term relationships with NGOs to enhance supply chain transparency and accountability.

    The 5Cs podcast, book and community are about shining a light on a better path. Think of it as a global village of business people giving Planet Earth a hand up. You can find Charlene Norman on LinkedIn and here. Consider subscribing for more thoughts from the 5Cs on Substack.

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    17 min
  • From Compliance to Competitive Advantage
    Jan 11 2025
    This second episode with Peter Suasso de Lima de Prado of Bluespar gets into the details of understanding the new compliance regulations. He has also written a white paper which you can download and read here.Europe is leading the charge in sustainability legislation, despite some resistance. The new due diligence directive will impact approximately 6,000 companies within Europe and around 1,000 companies outside Europe. These regulations apply to companies with a global workforce of 5,000 employees and a turnover of €15 billion, as well as those incorporated outside the EU but operating within these thresholds in the EU.Phased Approach to ComplianceThe compliance process is structured in phases, starting with larger companies and eventually extending to smaller businesses with 1,000 employees and €450 million in turnover. Even if a company is not directly in scope, there will be a ripple effect throughout the supply chain, as larger companies will require their suppliers to demonstrate compliance with these regulations.Opportunities for Smaller SuppliersWhile the regulations may seem daunting, they also present opportunities for smaller suppliers. By adopting a proactive approach to compliance, these suppliers can position themselves as preferred partners for larger companies, enhancing their marketability and business relationships.The Good, the Bad, and the UglyThe Positive SideEncourages Responsible Business Practices: These regulations push companies to adopt responsible business practices.Improved Supplier Relationships: Compliance can lead to better relationships with suppliers.Operational Efficiency: Implementing these practices can streamline operations.The ChallengesSignificant Effort Required: Implementing these changes requires substantial effort, especially for larger companies.Higher Expectations: Larger companies face higher expectations and more scrutiny.Mandatory Due Diligence ComponentsHuman Rights and Environmental Due DiligenceCompanies are required to develop and implement a climate transition plan that aligns with the goals of the Paris Agreement, focusing on reducing global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius. This involves assessing and mitigating adverse impacts across their value chains.The Six Phases of Due DiligencePieter outlines the six phases of due diligence as outlined by the OECD:Embedding Responsible Business Conduct: Integrate responsible practices into policies and management systems.Conducting Due Diligence: Identify and assess potential adverse impacts across the value chain.Developing a Plan: Create strategies to prevent, mitigate, or stop identified issues.Tracking Effectiveness: Monitor the implementation and effectiveness of the strategies.Communicating Progress: Report on advancements and actions taken.Remediation: Address and rectify any identified issues, whether directly or through supplier engagement.Integration with Change ManagementCharlene draws parallels between the due diligence process and traditional change management programs. While due diligence may not seem exciting or profitable, it is essential for protecting a company's reputation and culture. Embedding these practices into existing business processes can lead to operational efficiencies and improved supplier relationships.Continuous Improvement and Realistic ExpectationsPerfection is not the goal; instead, companies should focus on continuous improvement. Businesses should take their time to implement these changes, allowing for experimentation and learning. This gradual approach helps build internal capacity and ensures that compliance becomes part of the company’s culture.Long-Term BenefitsThe episode concludes with a discussion on the long-term benefits of effective due diligence practices. Companies that embrace these regulations can enhance their reputation, improve operational efficiency, and ultimately position themselves as leaders in their industries. Pieter shares an example of a low-cost retailer in the Netherlands that has successfully differentiated itself through its commitment to responsible practices, demonstrating that compliance does not have to come at a high cost. The 5Cs podcast, book and community are about shining a light on a better path. Think of it as a global village of business people giving Planet Earth a hand up. You can find Charlene Norman on LinkedIn and here. Consider subscribing for more thoughts from the 5Cs on Substack.
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    21 min
  • Legislative Changes Ahead: Is Your Business On Board?
    Jan 4 2025

    With guest Peter Suasso de Lima de Prado, a lawyer, supply chain executive and sustainaibility expert, we delve into the legislative shifts impacting businesses, especially in environmental sustainability and human rights within supply chains. This episode is essential for business leaders to understand how the existing legislations came into effect as well as the

    -Evolution of Human Rights in Business

    -UN's Business and Human Rights Framework

    -Limitations of Voluntary Frameworks

    -National Legislation: France and Germany

    -Key Provisions

    -Business Implications

    -Embracing Collaboration

    -Defining a Responsible Supply Chain

    Besides downloading and reading his whitepaper here, you can reach Peter at his company Bluespar

    The 5Cs podcast, book and community are about shining a light on a better path. Think of it as a global village of business people giving Planet Earth a hand up. You can find Charlene Norman on LinkedIn and here. Consider subscribing for more thoughts from the 5Cs on Substack.

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    15 min
  • Toasting The Trendsetters: Towards Sustainable Business Practices
    Dec 28 2024

    As we find ourselves in that unique space between Christmas and New Year's, I share some reflections from our latest episode of the 5Cs Podcast. This time of year, which I fondly call the "messy middle," is perfect for a bit of contemplation and anticipation. Think of it as the pause between the main course and dessert—a moment to savor and reflect.

    The 5Cs podcast, book and community are about shining a light on a better path. Think of it as a global village of business people giving Planet Earth a hand up. You can find Charlene Norman on LinkedIn and here. Consider subscribing for more thoughts from the 5Cs on Substack.

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    6 min
  • Innovative Financing: Pension Funds for a Greener Future
    Dec 21 2024

    With guest Tim MacDonald , we continue the conversation about the challenges of transitioning to clean energy. It's not merely a matter of upgrading technology; it is a complex process that requires significant financial backing, which is often hard to come by. As we wrap up 2024, we reflect on the abundance of venture capital available for clean energy investments and the stark reality that businesses seeking to change their systems often find limited support.

    Key Challenges:
    • Maintenance Funding: Maintenance is often viewed as unexciting and not conducive to business growth, leading to a lack of available funding options. Businesses typically self-fund their maintenance programs, which can hinder their ability to innovate and adopt new technologies.
    • Financial Viability: Demonstrating financial viability to potential investors is crucial. Businesses need to model themselves as cash flow machines to attract investment.
    Negotiating with Pension Funds

    To navigate these challenges, Tim McDonald suggests that businesses should seek partnerships with pension funds and go armed with

    Clear Budgeting: Start with a clear budget that outlines the business's goals, inputs, and expected revenue.

    Cash Flow Modeling: Model the business as a cash flow machine to demonstrate financial viability to potential investors.

    An Equity Payback Model: Establish a fair agreement that outlines how surplus revenue will be shared with pension investors. This allows businesses to retain more cash flow as they grow, ultimately leading to a self-funding operation.

    It's A Vision for the Future

    Tim shares an ambitious vision for addressing climate change on a global scale. He proposes that pension funds should collectively acquire fossil fuel companies to remove them from capital markets, allowing these companies to transition away from fossil fuels without the pressure to maintain share price growth. As part of the conversation he also shares six principles of fairness that should guide all operations in this new paradigm:

    Fair Trade: Ensuring fairness in supply chain relationships.

    Fair Engagement: Engaging with communities, including government and regulatory bodies.

    Fair Reckoning: Acknowledging and addressing the environmental and social consequences of business practices.

    Fair Working: Ensuring fair treatment of workers in the workplace.

    Fair Dealing: Promoting fair competition and dealings in the market.

    Fair Sharing: Ensuring that savers and investors receive fair returns on their investments.

    Final Thoughts:

    • Collaboration and Innovation: The path forward requires collaboration, innovation, and a commitment to doing better for the planet and future generations.
    • Meaningful Change: In a world grappling with the consequences of past actions, it is imperative that we collectively strive for a more sustainable and equitable future.

    The 5Cs podcast, book and community are about shining a light on a better path. Think of it as a global village of business people giving Planet Earth a hand up. You can find Charlene Norman on LinkedIn and here. Consider subscribing for more thoughts from the 5Cs on Substack.

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    20 min