NOTE: There are two different versions of each UAP Witness interview: a condensed conversation that just covers basic details of the encounter, and a deep dive conversation that goes into all the details, and where I ask lots of questions. **This is the full-length version.**_

GUEST INFO

Nick Gold is a congressional lobbyist, and media and information technologist based in Baltimore, Maryland. He's the founding director of Declassify UAP, an organization that helps US voters advocate for government transparency around the UAP subject, and that has so far driven over 25,000 calls and letters to Washington DC. Nick's also a contributing member of SCU, and a former member of Harvard's Galileo Project, and principle author on their publications. He’s worked with major broadcasters, studios, government agencies, and biotech startups. You can find out more about Nick's work, or voice your own support for UAP transparency at DeclassifyUAP.org.

TOPICS

In this episode, Nick walks us through the details of his own UAP encounter. He gives us a detailed description of the object he watched glide over the Baltimore skyline through the windows of his home, before moving on to discuss the very strange synchronistic features of the encounter. This is the sort of detail that's often totally ignored in standard UAP data collection, but that might provide a key to understanding the deep nature of these events beyond their technological features. This conversation is a clear example of how, when you look closely at a single UAP encounter, it often expands into a web of profound ideas and questions.

Matthew Szydagis, Ph.D. is a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Albany, where he works on solving basic mysteries of physics related to dark matter. He has a longstanding interest in UAP, and in this two-part episode we discuss two big questions he's working on. In part 1 he lays out his case for why we should expect "catastrophic disclosure" within our lifetimes. In part 2 we discuss the results of his lab's materials analysis of a piece of very strange material that may be part of a crashed UAP.

• Dr. Szydagis' course on The Physics of Exotic Propulsion, at the Society for UAP Studies: https://www.societyforuapstudies.org/thephysicsofexoticpropulsion
• His paper, "How much time do we have before catastrophic disclosure occurs?" ⁠https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.12738⁠⁠
• And, "The New Science of Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP)" ⁠⁠https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.06794⁠⁠

Matthew Szydagis, Ph.D. is a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Albany, where he works on solving basic mysteries of physics related to dark matter. He has a longstanding interest in UAP, and in this two-part episode we discuss two big questions he's working on. In part 1 he lays out his case for why we should expect "catastrophic disclosure" within our lifetimes. In part 2 we discuss the results of his lab's materials analysis of a piece of very strange material that may be part of a crashed UAP.

• Dr. Szydagis' course on The Physics of Exotic Propulsion, at the Society for UAP Studies: https://www.societyforuapstudies.org/thephysicsofexoticpropulsion
• His paper, "How much time do we have before catastrophic disclosure occurs?" https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.12738⁠
• And, "The New Science of Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP)" ⁠https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.06794⁠

GUEST INFO

Nick Gold is a media and information technologist based in Baltimore, Maryland. He’s worked with major broadcasters, studios, government agencies, and biotech startups. He has been a contributing member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies and Harvard University's Galileo Project, and is the founder of Declassify UAP, an organization that helps US voters advocate for government transparency around the UAP subject, and that has so far driven over 25,000 calls and letters to Washington DC. You can find out more about that work, or voice your own support for UAP transparency at DeclassifyUAP.org.

TOPICS

We discuss a very condensed version of Nick's own UAP encounter, and some of the uniquely synchronistic elements that set it apart from most UAP encounters. If you enjoy this discussion, and want to hear the deep-dive conversation, look for the full length version, which will be the very next episode.

GUEST INFO

Rich Hoffman is an executive board member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU). With decades of experience in UAP research and analysis, Rich has been instrumental in establishing scientific protocols for the investigation of anomalous phenomena. His background spans both technical and organizational leadership roles, making him uniquely positioned to discuss the intersection of scientific methodology and UAP studies. Rich has presented at numerous conferences worldwide and has contributed to several significant SCU research projects and publications.

QUESTIONS

- What are the main themes and focus areas for SCU's upcoming 2025 conference?

- Which speakers and panels should attendees be particularly excited about this year?

- What ongoing research projects will be presenting updates at the conference?

- Can you elaborate on the significant announcements regarding materials analysis from UAP sightings?

LINKS

- Register for SCU's 2025 Conference (June 6-8, Huntsville AL): [https://explorescu.org](https://explorescu.org/)

NOTE: Due to a technical error, the video portion of this episode shows only Rich's side of the conversation, though the audio remains intact for both participants.

This episode is part of a special miniseries featuring members of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) who have had personal encounters with UAP. Each guest appears in two versions: a short interview focused on the core events, and a long-form conversation offering a deeper account and discussion. **This is the longer, deep-dive interview.**

GUEST:

Mike Pritchard is a technologist and member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. He started his career in Robotics and Artificial Intelligence, working on cutting-edge problems with NASA and the Department of Defense, where he solved all sorts of interesting problems by doing things like using ultra wide band radar to detect mines, figuring out how to navigate in environments where GPS is off-limits, and using machine learning techniques to solve all sorts of problems. His work has even earned him a commendation from NASA. At LG NOVA, he helped build an entire engineering team from scratch, supported clean tech and AI startups, $700M VC fund. At the U.S. Digital Service he was a Presidential Innovation Fellow. At LG NOVA, he helped build an entire engineering team from scratch. He was part of a team that secured $700M venture capital fund. Outside of work, you’ll find Mike hiking with his family, playing soccer, paddleboarding, or tinkering with 3D printers and Arduinos.

This episode is part of a special miniseries featuring members of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) who have had personal encounters with UAP. Each guest appears in two versions: a short interview focused on the core events, and a long-form conversation offering a deeper account and discussion. **This is the short interview.**

GUEST:

Mike Pritchard is a technologist and member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. He started his career in Robotics and Artificial Intelligence, working on cutting-edge problems with NASA and the Department of Defense, where he solved all sorts of interesting problems by doing things like using ultra wide band radar to detect mines, figuring out how to navigate in environments where GPS is off-limits, and using machine learning techniques to solve all sorts of problems. His work has even earned him a commendation from NASA. At LG NOVA, he helped build an entire engineering team from scratch, supported clean tech and AI startups, $700M VC fund. At the U.S. Digital Service he was a Presidential Innovation Fellow. At LG NOVA, he helped build an entire engineering team from scratch. He was part of a team that secured $700M venture capital fund. Outside of work, you’ll find Mike hiking with his family, playing soccer, paddleboarding, or tinkering with 3D printers and Arduinos.

GUEST INFO

Larry Hancock is a board member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies, and did his formal training is in history and cultural anthropology. Larry spent a career first in the United States Air Force, and then as a strategic analyst and consultant. After his retirement, his lifelong scholarly interests and his nature as a "document geek" led him to author several books on Cold War history, international relations, and national security, as well as several edited collections of CIA, FBI and military documents. He has been a board member of the Mary Ferrell Foundation, a major online interactive history archive. His most recent works include an books on covert action and deniable warfare ("Shadow Warfare"), command and control practices ("Surprise Attack"), and the national intelligence problem of UFOs ("Unidentified").

QUESTIONS

- How do people in the intelligence and security world think differently about UAP from people doing history, or empirical science?

- What are the assumptions, methods, and values at the foundation of how the intel and security worlds study UAP?

- If we were writing a history of the relationship between the subject of UFOs/UAP and national security, where would it start? In what direction would it be heading today?

- How can we know where to draw the line between reasonable and unreasonable ideas about what various government agencies might know about the UAP subject?

LINKS

- Unidentified: The National Intelligence Problem of UFOs https://amzn.to/4eHUlbd