In this episode, Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia interviews Paul Adams, Chief Product Officer at Intercom, a leading customer communication platform that has experienced both remarkable success and near-catastrophe.

Founded in 2011, Intercom revolutionized customer service as a SaaS pioneer, reaching a peak valuation of $1.3 billion. However, by 2022, the company faced potential collapse as AI rapidly disrupted its core business. In a dramatic turnaround, Intercom's original founder returned as CEO, transforming the company into an AI-first powerhouse now serving over 50,000 paying customers globally.

Paul's 12-year tenure at Intercom has been pivotal in shaping the company's evolution. As CPO, he leads Product Management, Design, Data Science, and Research. His impressive background includes working on groundbreaking products at Google, such as YouTube and Gmail, during the iPhone's launch era.

In this episode, we explore Intercom's transformation from a simple customer support tool to an AI-powered communication platform, the evolution of AI in customer service, and the challenges of building AI-first products as a non-native AI company.

What you'll learn:
- How Intercom navigated the transition from a traditional SaaS model to an AI-first approach.
- The impact of AI on product development and organizational structure.
- Intercom's journey in developing AI-powered customer service agents.
- Strategies for implementing outcome-based pricing models in the AI era.
- Challenges and opportunities in building AI-first products for established companies.

Key Takeaways:
- AI Transformation: Paul discusses Intercom's bold move to allocate 70% of R&D to AI development.
- Organizational Restructuring: He explains how Intercom is reimagining traditional product roles to adapt to AI-driven development.
- Customer-Centric AI: Paul emphasizes the importance of building AI products in close partnership with customers.
- Pricing Innovation: He introduces Intercom's exploration of outcome-based pricing models aligned with customer success.
- Product Judgment: Paul argues for the increasing importance of product intuition and risk-taking in the AI era.

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Credits:
Host: Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia
Guest: Paul Adams

In this episode, Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia interviews Karandeep Anand, President and Chief Product Officer at Brex, one of the fastest-growing fintech companies in the world.

Founded in 2017, Brex quickly became the go-to financial services partner for most Silicon Valley startups, with 80% of Y Combinator startups using their platform. This rapid growth led to over $1.2 billion in funding and a $12.3 billion valuation. Brex now serves a wide range of companies, from startups to large enterprises, including over 150 public companies with a combined estimated market cap exceeding $2.9 trillion.

Karandeep's impressive career includes 6.5 years at Meta, where he led a team of 3,000 people and served 200M+ businesses globally, and 15 years at Microsoft, heading product management for Azure's application and developer platforms. At Brex, he has been instrumental in transforming the company's Product Management culture and expanding its product into a comprehensive financial platform offering corporate cards, treasury solutions, and software for travel and expenses in one place.

In this episode, we explore Brex's evolution from a startup-focused company to serving enterprise customers, the integration of AI in financial products within a highly regulated environment, and the restructuring of product teams for efficiency and innovation. We also discuss Karandeep's unique perspective on product-market fit and the importance of continuous innovation in a rapidly changing market.

What you'll learn:

• Karandeep's approach to evolving Brex from a startup-focused company to serving enterprise customers.
• How AI is integrated into financial products in a highly regulated environment.
• Strategies for restructuring product teams to drive efficiency and innovation.
• The importance of PMs spending more time on customer calls and listening to customers.
• A third go-to-market motion mixing PLG and SLG: Assisted Product-led growth.
• Why product-market fit is a journey, not a destination, and the importance of continuous innovation.

Key Takeaways:

• AI Integration: Karandeep highlights the use of AI not just in products, but also to reduce change management costs for customers.
• Product Team Restructuring: He discusses the transformation of Brex's product team, emphasizing the role of PMs as ""mini-CEOs"" for their product lines.
• Customer-Centric Approach: Karandeep stresses the importance of PMs being directly involved in sales calls and customer interactions.
• Continuous Innovation: He argues that product-market fit is not a static goal but a continuous journey in today's rapidly changing market.
• Go-to-Market Strategy: Karandeep introduces the concept of "assisted PLG" as a hybrid approach between product-led and sales-led growth.

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Credits:
Host: Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia
Guest: Karandeep Anand

In this episode, Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia interviews Michael Cerda, Chief Product and Technology Officer at TelevisaUnivision, the world's leading Spanish-language media company reaching 125 million Spanish speakers daily across the US and Latin America.

TelevisaUnivision launched ViX, a consumer streaming platform, two years ago to compete with US-based giants like Netflix and Disney+. ViX has already surpassed 50 million global monthly active users, driven by the world's largest library of Spanish-language content, including major soccer rights like the World Cup, European Championship, and Champions League.

Michael's impressive career includes launching Disney+ as VP of Product at Disney, leading Apple's first Credit Card as CPO at Goldman Sachs, and working directly with Mark Zuckerberg at Meta. At ViX, he leads product management, design, and engineering, leveraging AI to enrich metadata, improve content recommendations, and solve the 'cold start' problem—all while steering ViX toward profitability by late 2024.

We explore ViX's journey from launch to a major player in the Spanish-language streaming market, the integration of AI in content recommendations, and the balance between traditional TV viewing habits and modern streaming interfaces. We also discuss how TelevisaUnivision leverages cultural insights to drive engagement and the challenges of personalizing content for a diverse Hispanic audience across 19 countries.

What you'll learn:
- Michael's approach to scaling ViX from launch to over 50 million users in two years.
- How AI and large language models are used to enrich metadata and improve user experience.
- Strategies for personalizing content recommendations across 19 countries.
- The development of specific user personas to target diverse audiences.
- How TelevisaUnivision balances free and premium tiers in their streaming service.

Key Takeaways:
- AI-Powered Recommendations: Michael highlights the use of AI to solve the 'cold start' problem in content recommendations.
- Cultural Sensitivity: He emphasizes the importance of understanding cultural nuances in creating engaging content for Hispanic audiences.
- Rapid Scaling: Michael discusses the challenges and strategies involved in building and launching a streaming service in just 9 months.
- User-Centric Design: He explains how ViX tailors its interface and content to cater to both traditional TV viewers and modern streaming users.
- Product Management in Media: Michael shares insights on adapting product management principles from tech to the media industry, drawing parallels between building products and his passions for music, yoga, and cooking.

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Credits:
Host: Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia
Guest: Michael Cerda