• Understanding Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) with Melanie Phipps

  • Jan 15 2025
  • Durée: 58 min
  • Podcast

Understanding Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) with Melanie Phipps

  • Résumé

  • “Strategies are a really important thing with PDA, but we tend not to call them strategies. We refer to them as helpful approaches because there’s no one-size-fits-all.”


    In this episode of Your Voice Matters, Asma Jacob talks with Melanie Phipps, a PDA Parenting Mentor and Coach, and a mother of three boys, including one with a PDA profile on the autism spectrum. Melanie shares her personal journey navigating the challenges of PDA and discusses the importance of empowering neurodivergent individuals through flexible, supportive approaches rather than conforming to societal norms.

    Together, they explore what PDA is, how it manifests, and practical methods to create accommodating environments. Melanie also shares insights on the role of masking and the need for understanding in both home and community settings.

    Key Takeaways:

    PDA is characterised by anxiety-driven avoidance of everyday demands, requiring thoughtful, individualised approaches.

    Flexible strategies, or “helpful approaches,” can support children with PDA while reducing stress and fostering growth.

    The importance of recognising and respecting masking behaviours, while creating spaces where individuals feel safe to “unmask.”

    Empowering neurodivergent individuals means adapting to their needs, not forcing conformity to societal expectations.


    “There’s no one-size-fits-all approach to PDA. What works one day might not work the next, but having a toolbox of approaches makes all the difference.”

    About Melanie:
    Melanie Phipps is a PDA Parenting Mentor and Coach and a mother of three boys. Her personal journey includes navigating the complexities of PDA and autism diagnoses for her sons, a 17-year-old with a dual ASD/PDA diagnosis and a 10-year-old with an ASD diagnosis. Through her experiences, Melanie advocates for a greater understanding of PDA and supports families on their own journeys.

    Melanie’s Linktree: https://linktr.ee/positivelypda

    Melanie’s website: https://www.positivelypda.co.uk/

    PDA Society Website: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/

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