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Today's guest is screenwriter MARK PALERMO (Detention), who also hosts his own excellent movie-themed podcast, MOVIES AND CHAOS.

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MARK'S CHOICE: Mark has been a longtime fan of Carly Rae Jepsen, and it all began with her album EMOTION (2015). We talk Carly's history leading up to the production and release of the album, then discuss it track-by-track. We also touch upon the SIDE B EP in the UNCUT version of the ep on our Substack.

THE WINES (and Not-Wines)
Dave's Wine:
Henri Champliau - Cremant de Bourgogne Rose NV
Proper "cremant" champagne style bubbly from Bourgogne (aka Burgundy.) Yeasty, croissant flavors of champagne mixed with gentle red fruit flavors of strawberry and raspberry. Effervescent, but still soft and approachable.
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Dallas' Not-Wine:
1857 Estate Potato Vodka (Barrel Whiskey)
Whiskey-adjacent, barreled in virgin American white oak from the Adirondacks with medium char. Smokiness with butter pecan and slated caramel. Technically a whiskey but they can't call it that. Long and succulent with insane toasty notes.

Mark's Not-Wine:
Crush Cream Soda (red)
Cocktail recipes with Cream Soda
Only available in Canada - sorry, non-Canadians! (Though just go buy normal cream soda, it tastes the same, give or take.) The sweet, creamy, semi-adult flavors of cream soda with a pop of bright red color. Add alcohol as desired.

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