In this engaging conversation, Charlie William Parks interviews Dr. Eric Helms, a prominent figure in the sports science and bodybuilding community. They discuss Eric's journey to becoming a professional bodybuilder, the mindset shifts he experienced, and the importance of intrinsic motivation in the sport. They also discuss subjects from fitness influencers to "gaintaining," optimizing health and weight loss drugs like Ozempic and Monjouro. Eric shares insights on the natural bodybuilding scene, the evolution of bodybuilding organizations, and the science behind bulking and cutting. The conversation also touches on training philosophies and personal growth within the fitness realm.