This episode features the interrogation of a 13-year-old child. Art Tobias was coerced into confessing to a murder and ultimately served three years in jail for a crime he didn't commit. And when he tried to sue, the officers involved were granted qualified immunity. Ben and Aloe also speak to Ohio State Senator Nina Turner on why the policing system was never designed to protect and serve the black community. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices