Vic and I discuss what this new Trump presidency looks like for black folk in 2025 and beyond. Also, where are the leaders? We have no voices, well major voices, that speak for us like back in the day. Are those days long gone? Has the internet changed things? Or have those old methods of organizing and talking about issues on the church steps and at the local community center past their prime? We talk some other stuff too. Check it out! 2025 is going to be a mutha.....!