In today's episode, Dean Shu (CEO & Co-founder, Arphie) joins Jack Cochran and Matthew James to discuss AI agents in PreSales and the evolution of the industry. They explore the changing landscape of PreSales leadership, practical applications of AI, and strategies for evaluating AI solutions.

Thank you to Arphie for sponsoring this episode. Arphie is the leading AI-powered platform for automating RFPs and security questionnaires. Arphie empowers teams — from the Fortune 500 to high-growth startups — to save time, improve accuracy, and deliver results faster than ever by combining your prior responses and company context with the latest AI agent capabilities.

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• Join the Presales Collective Slack:https://presalescollective.com/slack
• Contact Dean Shu: dean@arphie.ai https://www.linkedin.com/in/dean-shu/
• LE SSERAFIM, Crazy EP: https://open.spotify.com/album/538vEfAgLJ6g2I8ubuOlap?si=so9xz_qMQBatFqHMDTp5sw
• Hidden Brain podcast episode with Brian Klass - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5MowfIBQdmQEIMYdDL3MYK?si=fff1b1731daa48ff

00:00 - Introduction

03:13 - What are you listening to

06:30 - Dean's background

09:20 - What's top of mind for presales leaders?

11:57 - How to make a presales tech purchase

20:13 - What are AI agents?

26:40 - How do you properly explore AI?

32:25 - Is AI going to replace people?

35:41 - Outro

1. PreSales Leadership Evolution
   • Elevating the sales engineering role
   • Building stronger cross-functional partnerships
   • Gaining executive-level presence
2. Understanding AI in PreSales
   • Different types of AI models and their applications
   • AI agents vs. traditional AI tools
   • Real-world implementation strategies
3. Evaluating AI Solutions
   • Key criteria for vendor selection
   • Security considerations
   • Proof of concept best practices