Episodes

  • Room 101: Project Coldplay
    Jan 23 2025

    As the wordly philosophers of Coldplay suggest, getting what you want, but not what you need, might leave you in need of fixing.

    Leaps in investment platform technology give investors more information, more choice and the ability to act more quickly and easily. We want that, but is it what we need? As Joe points out, many of the positive developments in tech are double-edge swords. He thinks from a behavioural perspective, now is one of the worst times ever to be an investor.

    ๐—ž๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜†๐˜€:

    #๐Ÿญ ๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป โ€“ it takes me less than 10 seconds from launching my platform app on my phone to being able to deal. Is that a good thing? In one dimension yes, but the overarching story of behavioural finance is people doing irrational things that create bad outcomes. Slick and seamless tech combined with noise, FOMO and a constant barrage of stimulus has the potential to exacerbate these problems.

    #๐Ÿฎ ๐—” ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—บ ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—ฝ โ€“ tech providers exist in a highly competitive environment and 'faster, easier, more' are key facets of the battleground. No one wants to lead a pitch with, โ€˜andโ€ฆ.this is how we reduce information available to clients and make it harder for them to tradeโ€™.

    #๐Ÿฏ ๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฒ โ€“ whilst it might be possible to get providers around a table to agree a common approach that helps investors manage their worst impulses, a market-based solution is likely more workable. This needs those who advise on these platforms to be changing the conversation and including behavioural design as part of any selection process. Imagine a world where providers compete on how they help clients beat their biases as much as how slick the tech itself is.

    ๐—ฃ๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜†? ๐—œ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป

    โ€œIntelligent friction,โ€ is a concept from the payments industry which focuses on interventions based the risk level of a transaction. It aims to balance a good user experience with effective security. Buy a coffee in a new country when you land there fine, buy a laptop, expect an intervention. There are some obvious investment analogies here. And of course this is only one tool in the arsenal, getting better at education and helping clients help themselves is also pivotal.

    We donโ€™t want to lose all the good things that tech brings, but to mangle Coldplay, we should perhaps be trying to help people want what they need.

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    8 mins
  • Room 101: Performance fees - heads I win...???
    Jan 15 2025

    Joe doesnโ€™t like performance fees - but why? Are they innately problematic or just badly and perhaps cynically implemented in the mutual fund industry? In this bitesize episode, we get into alignment of interests, bad design and investor behaviour.

    ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜?

    Performance fees are most often discussed in the context of alignment and risk sharing. Joe raises an interesting question - can they also be used to nudge investors away from unhelpful behaviour?

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    9 mins
  • Room 101: Chartcrime?
    Jan 8 2025

    We all have things in our working lives that drive us insane. Anyone who regularly listens to the pod will know that there are a few subjects that consistently raise Joeโ€™s blood pressure to unhealthy levelsโ€ฆ

    In the interest of Joe's and our future guestโ€™s wellbeing, we wanted to find a way of dealing with these issues productively.

    Our solution, Decision Nerds: Room 101

    Room 101 is the torture chamber in George Orwellโ€™s classic book, 1984. For those who cross its threshold, it contains, โ€˜the worst thing in the worldโ€™.

    Many Brits will remember the Room 101 TV and radio shows where celebrities suggested what they thought was the worst thing in the world and competed to have their pet hate consigned to oblivion (my personal favourite being Jimmy Carr and tax avoidance schemes).

    Our take on Room 101 is slightly different. Like the celebrities, Joe, I and our guests will discuss the issues that make our eyes roll. But it wonโ€™t be just a winge-a-thon, weโ€™ll try to get to the heart of the issue and start a productive discussion.

    ๐—–๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ

    We're kicking-off with โ€˜chartcrimeโ€™ and something that particularly riles Joe - the overlaying of time series, such as inflation, from different periods and looking for predictive patterns. Are these charts a problem, or is it how they are used and framed?

    In the episode, we discuss:

    ๐—ฃ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป and how different investor types might confuse the two

    ๐—ง๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฝ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ผ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜€ - are they the same thing?

    ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ธ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฑ ๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป that might stop people producing these charts

    Our Room 101 episodes are bite-sized and designed to provoke a conversation. Hot takes, or deeply considered meditations are both welcome. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/paul-richards-34965883_%F0%9D%97%A5%F0%9D%97%BC%F0%9D%97%BC%F0%9D%97%BA-%F0%9D%9F%AD%F0%9D%9F%AC%F0%9D%9F%AD-%F0%9D%97%96%F0%9D%97%B5%F0%9D%97%AE%F0%9D%97%BF%F0%9D%98%81%F0%9D%97%B0%F0%9D%97%BF%F0%9D%97%B6%F0%9D%97%BA%F0%9D%97%B2-we-activity-7282682076963733504-tB9s?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

    And of course, feel free to submit the most egregious example of chartcrime you have ever seen (if you want to raise Joeโ€™s blood pressure).

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    12 mins
  • May Contain Lies...
    Sep 11 2024

    If youโ€™ve been around the block, you will likely have seen some eye-rolling use of evidence during meetings. Evidence can be used badly for many reasons; a misunderstanding of what conclusions can be drawn from it, or perhaps it has been cherry-picked to support a particular position.

    In this episode, we unpick these issues with Professor Alex Edmans of London Business School. Alex recently published a book, โ€˜May Contain Liesโ€™, which discusses the methodological, psychological and incentive problems surrounding evidence use.

    We spend a decent amount of time on a core idea from the book, โ€˜The Ladder of Misinferenceโ€™. If you think scientifically, there are no earth-shattering revelations here, but I really like it because it is a simple teachable framework that groups can adopt. Alex gives some great examples that everyone can understand and internalise.

    The Ladder deals with the challenges of method, but thatโ€™s only half the story. We also have to beat the behavioural cards that nature has dealt us, e.g. confirmation bias.

    And even if we beat the first two traps, incentives can nudge us away from saying what we really believe.

    Key insights:

    - How Alex tries to move beyond black-and-white thinking and engage with complexity - getting the right mix of data and stories

    - Why do bad ideas stick - do you still 'Power Pose'?

    - Changing minds โ€“ the power of good questions (thereโ€™s a great experiment on pianos and toilets that you can try at home).

    - Trading off the short and long-term - why he chose the most critical agent to help him publish his book.

    - Understanding neurological carrots and sticks - what happens when we put people in a brain scanner and give them statements they like and donโ€™t?

    - The state of debate around ESG and DEI โ€“ ideology, identity and pressures to conform.


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    48 mins
  • Pants on fire
    Jun 18 2024

    Lying โ€“ itโ€™s something that all humans do. Most of the lies we tell are small and harmless. But deceptive behaviour in the investment industry lowers trust and increases costs and complexity.

    We are deceptive for many reasons and one of them is that we can get away with it. This is because, despite what we might believe, most of us are pretty terrible at spotting lying โ€“ including highly experienced financial analysts.

    But what would happen if we all had access to AI-powered technology on our phones that could spot deception with a high degree of accuracy? Would that change how the industry behaves?

    This is no idle speculation โ€“ in this episode of Decision Nerds, we explore research that suggests that AI is significantly better at spotting lying than humans. And as we all know, AI has a habit of surprising us by appearing in the wild far faster than we might expect.

    How would this technology impact the investment industry? We discuss:

    ๐™๐™๐™š ๐™ข๐™ค๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ซ๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™›๐™ค๐™ง ๐™™๐™š๐™˜๐™š๐™ฅ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™ž๐™ฃ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™™๐™ช๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™ฎ โ€“ the entirely logical reasons that we donโ€™t always tell the truth

    ๐˜ฟ๐™ž๐™›๐™›๐™š๐™ง๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ฉ ๐™ ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™™๐™จ ๐™ค๐™› ๐™™๐™š๐™˜๐™š๐™ฅ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š๐™ž๐™ง ๐™ง๐™š๐™ก๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ซ๐™š ๐™ž๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™–๐™˜๐™ฉ๐™จ โ€“ what are the traps that managers fall into and why

    ๐™…๐™ช๐™จ๐™ฉ ๐™๐™ค๐™ฌ ๐™ข๐™ช๐™˜๐™ ๐™—๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ฉ๐™š๐™ง ๐™ž๐™จ ๐˜ผ๐™„? โ€“ the results might surprise you

    ๐™’๐™ค๐™ช๐™ก๐™™ ๐™– ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™ช๐™ฉ๐™ ๐™ข๐™–๐™˜๐™๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™š ๐™™๐™š๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™ค๐™ฎ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™™๐™ช๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™ฎ ๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ข๐™–๐™ ๐™š ๐™ž๐™ฉ ๐™—๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ฉ๐™š๐™ง? โ€“ our take on โ€˜creative destructionโ€™

    ๐™๐™๐™š๐™ง๐™šโ€™๐™จ ๐™ฃ๐™ค ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™ช๐™ฉ๐™ ๐™ข๐™–๐™˜๐™๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™š ๐™ฎ๐™š๐™ฉ - we discuss a few better questions that we can use today.

    Affectiva facial recognition demo
    Paper on analysts' ability to spot CEO deception
    Paper on AI's ability to spot CEO deception
    Lying on CVs

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    41 mins
  • Underperformance - everyone's got a plan until they're hit in the face
    Apr 23 2024

    ๐—›๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—บ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ต ๐˜๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚ ๐—ด๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ?

    1. Hire a manager after a period of strong performance.

    2. Watch in horror as you donโ€™t experience that outcome, maybe the opposite.

    3. Spend a huge amount of time and emotional labour deciding on whether your initial thesis was wrong, something has changed at the manager, or with market dynamics.

    4. After sucking up a huge amount of governance time, decide to sack the manager.

    5. Rinse and repeat with potentially similar outcomes.


    Now that might not be you, but it is a story that plays out regularly.


    Experiencing underperformance is one of the unavoidable realities of hiring an active manager. And itโ€™s painful for everyone; clients, managers and advisers. And badly managed pain creates some predictably bad outcomes for all parties.


    One important and manageable issue is time horizon mismatch. And this is what and I explore in the latest episode of Decision Nerds. We discuss


    ๐—ช๐—ต๐˜† ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต โ€“ managers need an appropriate amount of time to let their edge play out. It may be longer than you think.


    ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—•๐˜‚๐˜…๐˜๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—œ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜… โ€“ a simple way of articulating time frames that would help everyone.


    ๐—˜๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜†๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜‚๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ๐—น ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ โ€“ we posit that most peopleโ€™s ability to predict how they will deal with the pressure of underperformance wonโ€™t reflect reality when things get tough.

    We talk about the distinct behavioural pressures facing clients, advisers and managers and what they might consider doing to make things easier. A couple of takeaways if you donโ€™t have time to listen.


    ๐—–๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐˜€ - what is your real capacity for tolerating underperformance, how do you know this?

    ๐— ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ - have a clear view of the timeframe your results should be judged over. Whilst this a tough problem, if you donโ€™t have a view, one will be forced on you.

    ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ - is your role to be a behavioural bulwark and help clients through this period, or just keep them happy? They are not always the same thing.


    More information on the Buxton Index is here: https://lnkd.in/eHXDfkfe




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    39 mins
  • The other F word
    Feb 20 2024

    Thinking and talking about failure can be tough, especially when itโ€™s us whoโ€™s failing. But itโ€™s important for us as individuals and investment teams to find a way to do this in an effective manner that allows us to both learn and evolve. In this episode of Decisions Nerdsโ€ฆ

    - Joe pits his inner Brian Blessed against an AI auto-editor

    - We examine Joeโ€™s framework for thinking about errors around investment beliefs, processes and outcomes.

    - We then think about this in the context of broader research that thinks about different typologies of errors; basic, complex and intelligent.

    - We then discuss the practical steps that can make life easier.

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    36 mins
  • Christmas behaviour
    Dec 12 2023

    We downed some eggnog and decided to record an impromptu Christmas special. We have a chat about how insights from behavioural science might help the festive holidays proceed more smoothly:

    ๐Ÿ˜‚ Why Joe's team might think (in his own words) that heโ€™s an โ€˜egotistical a*&holeโ€™.

    ๐Ÿ˜ง A simple way to feel better about Christmas (but you might not like it).

    ๐Ÿ˜  The nudges that retailers use to get us to buy.

    ๐Ÿ’ต Gift cards or cash as a present โ€“ to constrain or not to constrain?

    ๐Ÿค” Do New Yearโ€™s resolutions get a bad rap and how can we can structure them to give a better chance of success?

    ๐Ÿฟ Our favourite Christmas movie as a metaphor for decision-making and a gift that helps people understand their value to the world.

    Wherever you are, however you celebrate (or donโ€™t), we hope that you have get some high-quality time with family and friends over the festive period.

    Weโ€™ll see you on the other side.

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    22 mins