Someone in Amanda’s cult cut her neck when she tried to escape?! WTF is the “3-Wife Rule?” How did Fundamentalist Mormon cults start? And did the LDS Church have anything to do with it? Amanda Rae is back on the pod! This is a fun conversation that dives in a lot of different topics, all things cult.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00:00 Teaser and Intro

00:01:38 Did Amanda turn into Calvin? (Episode begins)

00:03:48 Setting the conversation - comparing cults
00:05:55 Amanda's life in "The Order"

00:08:37 The "3 Wife" Rule
00:10:52 David Kingston

00:13:41 Narcissism and double-standards

00:18:23 The lack of accountability in Mormon cults

00:22:27 “The worst sin ever!” according to cult leader, John Timpson

00:25:54 Cult leaders are not always cult founders - How Warren Jeffs took power

00:32:58 Amanda has an epiphany!

00:34:43 What made Amanda start questioning her cult?

00:36:42 “Put It on the Shelf" — Mormon mind-tricks
00:40:25 Amanda’s first date is at Panda Express lol (How marriages happen)

00:44:38 Amanda is bleeding!

00:54:01 Why leaving a cult triggers existing members

00:56:28 Silly beliefs from Calvin and Amanda’s upbringing (Calvin plays audio when he was 8 years old)

01:02:24 Amanda explains “Numbered Men” 

01:07:30 Amanda's dad secretly listened to her content

01:11:14 “Faith over questioning” - Order teaching

01:12:46 Calvin and Amanda finding their place in the world, post-cult

01:15:22 How the LDS Church created Fundamentalist Mormonism

01:21:26 The hardest parts of leaving a cult

01:23:37 Amanda finding benefits in “hard things”

01:25:20 Calvin deliberately choosing "hard" 

01:32:10 The necessity of adopting whole new paradigms when leaving a cult

01:37:05 Calvin fell into depression after leaving, and the mindset that got him out of it

01:44:21 One of Calvin’s favorite quotes—“A mind full of conclusion has…” 

01:47:10 Final thoughts

01:51:03 Please leave comments! And subscribe. It will help future episodes! SHOW-NOTES About Amanda Rae: Amanda Rae was in the show “Escaping Polygamy.” She has a YouTube channel where she exposes the teachings of the cult she was born into. You can catch her full story by going here: About Calvin Wayman: Hey I’m Calvin. I grew up in a Fundamentalist Mormon cult that practices polygamy, known as “The Work of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” I have 1 dad, 4 moms, and 44 siblings. Yup. That’s not a typo—forty plus four. All in one house. At 30 years old, I made the most difficult decision of my life and faced hell fire and damnation (according to my religious upbringing) by choosing to leave my religion, and start a whole new life on my own. The last few years have been me getting my feet under me, and today I live in New York City. This show is my expression. My perspectives. My art. I hope to bring awareness to cults, but more importantly, to the underrated power of individual sovereignty. Above all, this is a podcast that celebrates curiosity over conclusion. I hope you enjoy.