Joining Adam Juniper & Dan M Lee this week is special guest JR DeSouza of [Outex](https://store.outex.com/?ref=danmleephoto), the camera waterproofing system comapny. Between JR and Dan we discover a few surprising things about the 'camera condom,' including it's uses in the Covid crisis. We also explore setting the experience of setting up [Outex](https://store.outex.com/?ref=danmleephoto), a camera equipment company built by camera enthusiasts, including the benefits (or otherwise) of running a Kickstarter. Finally we round off with a book give away of Dan's latest book, [Creative Photography: The Professional Edge](https://amzn.to/2VJoIrc). To take part in that, simply sign up to the email list here. (Note: There was a technical issue with the sound for downloads in the first couple of days, this has now been resolved.) The photographer we discuss around the 12 minute mark as having died from Covid was Anthony Causi, a highly skilled and exceedingly popular sports photographer for The New York Post who covered the city's teams for 25 years, who was aged 48.