Jim is joined by former USA Eagles coach Gary Gold for a deep dive into the state of rugby union in the States. With an eye on a men's World Cup in the USA in 2031 and a women's World Cup following soon after in 2033, they chat about Ilona Maher's impact on the game and how pathways into the sport across the pond differ from the UK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices