GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Care Podcast

Written by: Alex Smith Eric Widera
  • Summary

  • A geriatrics and palliative care podcast for every health care professional. We invite the brightest minds in geriatrics, hospice, and palliative care to talk about the topics that you care most about, ranging from recently published research in the field to controversies that keep us up at night. You'll laugh, learn and maybe sing along. Hosted by Eric Widera and Alex Smith. CME available!
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Episodes
  • How to Make an Alzheimer's Diagnosis in Primary Care: A Podcast with Nathaniel Chin
    Feb 6 2025

    Things are changing quickly in the Alzheimer’s space. We now have biomarkers that can reasonably approximate the degree of amyloid build-up in the brain with a simple blood test. We have two new FDA-approved medications that reduce that amyloid buildup and modestly slow down the progression of the disease. So, the question becomes, what, if anything, should we do differently in the primary care setting to diagnose the disease?

    On today’s podcast, we’ve invited Nathaniel Chin back to the GeriPal podcast to talk about what primary care needs to manage this new world of Alzheimer’s disease effectively. Nate is a geriatrician and clinician-scientist at the University of Wisconsin, as well as the host of the Wisconsin ADRC's podcast, "Dementia Matters." In each bi-weekly episode, he interviews Alzheimer's disease experts about research advances and caregiver strategies. Nate also wrote a NEJM piece last year on “Alzheimer’s Disease, Biomarkers, and mAbs — What Does Primary Care Need?”

    We address the following questions with Nate:

    • Has anything changed for the primary care doctor when diagnosing Alzheimer’s? How should we screen for cognitive impairment?

    • Does a good history matter anymore?

    • What’s the role of assessing function?

    • What do we do with those who have only subjective cognitive complaints?

    • Can’t we skip all this and just send some blood-based biomarkers?

    • What is the role of the amyloid antibody treatments?


    Lastly, take a look at the following if you want to take a deeper dive into some of the other articles and podcasts we discuss:

    • First, two competing definitions of what is Alzheimer’s:

      • Alzheimer Disease as a Clinical-Biological Construct—An International Working Group (IWG) Recommendation

      • Revised criteria for diagnosis and staging of Alzheimer's disease: Alzheimer's Association Workgroup

    • Alzheimer's Association clinical practice guideline for the Diagnostic Evaluation, Testing, Counseling, and Disclosure of Suspected Alzheimer's Disease and Related Disorders (DETeCD-ADRD): Executive summary of recommendations for primary care

    • Podcasts we mentioned

      • Prevention of Dementia: A Podcast with Kristine Yaffe

      • Screening for Dementia: A Podcast with Anna Chodos, Joseph Gaugler and Soo Borson

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    48 mins
  • Telehealth vs In-Person Palliative Care: Guests Joseph Greer, Lynn Flint, Simone Rinaldi, and Vicki Jackson
    Jan 30 2025

    It is a battle royale on this week’s GeriPal podcast. In one corner, weighing in at decades of experience, well known for heavy hits of bedside assessments, strong patient-family relationships, and a knockout punch of interdisciplinary collaboration, we have in-person palliative care consults. But watch out! Travel time can leave this champ vulnerable to fatigue and no-shows. In the other corner, we have the young upstart, able to reach patients across vast distances when delivering palliative care, all in the comfort of wearing pajamas, we have telehealth delivered palliative care. However, lack of physical presence may make this contender struggle to land the emotional support punch that is at the very heart of palliative care.

    Who will emerge victorious? Will in-person palliative care use its experience and bedside manner to overwhelm telehealth palliative care, or will telehealth deliver the knockout blow of efficiency and accessibility?

    Find out on this week’s podcast where we invite Joseph Greer, Simone Rinaldi, and Vicki Jackson to talk about their recent JAMA article on “Telehealth vs In-Person Early Palliative Care for Patients With Advanced Lung Cancer - A Multisite Randomized Clinical Trial.”

    Additionally, here are some of the resources we talked about during the podcast:

    • Eduardo Bruera’s editorial that accompanies the JAMA paper titled “Improving Palliative Care Access for Patients With Cancer”

    • Our podcast on Stepped Palliative Care with Jennifer Temel, Chris Jones, and Pallavi Kumar

    • The book “What's in the Syringe? Principles of Early Integrated Palliative Care” by Juliet Jacobsen, Vicki Jackson, Joseph Greer, and Jennifer Temel


    Lastly, don’t forget about attending some of the sessions Vicki mentioned at the end of the podcast during the HPNA/AAHPM annual meeting in Denver, as well as the GeriPal #HPMParty Pub Crawl!

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    51 mins
  • Deprescribing Super Special III: Constance Fung, Emily McDonald, Amy Linsky, and Michelle Odden
    Jan 23 2025

    It’s another deprescribing super special on today's GeriPal Podcast, where we delve into the latest research on deprescribing medications prescribed to older adults. Today, we explore four fascinating studies highlighting innovative approaches to reducing medication use and improving patient outcomes.

    In our first segment, we discuss a study led by Constance Fung and her team, which investigated the use of a masked tapering method combined with augmented cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia (CBTI) to help patients discontinue benzodiazepines. The study involved 188 middle-aged and older adults who had been using medications like lorazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam, temazepam, and zolpidem for insomnia. The results were impressive: 73% of participants in the masked tapering plus augmented CBTI group successfully discontinued their medication, compared to 59% in the open taper plus standard CBTI group. This significant difference highlights the potential of targeting placebo effect mechanisms to enhance deprescribing efforts.

    Next, we turn to Emily McDonald, the director of the Canadian Medication Appropriateness and Deprescribing Network, to discuss her study on the impact of direct-to-consumer educational brochures on gabapentin deprescribing. Patients received brochures detailing the risks of gabapentinoids, nonpharmacologic alternatives, and a proposed deprescribing regimen (see here for the brochure). Additionally, clinicians participated in monthly educational sessions. The intervention group saw a deprescribing rate of 21.1%, compared to 9.9% in the usual care group. This study underscores the power of patient education in promoting safer medication use.

    In our third segment, we explore Amy Linsky’s study that examined the effect of patient-directed educational materials on clinician deprescribing of potentially low-benefit or high-risk medications, such as proton pump inhibitors, high-dose gabapentin, or risky diabetes medications. The intervention involved mailing medication-specific brochures to patients before their primary care appointments (click here for the brochure). The results showed a modest but significant increase in deprescribing rates among the intervention group. This approach demonstrates the potential of simple, low-cost interventions to improve medication safety.

    Finally, we discuss Michelle Odden’s study, which used a target trial emulation approach to investigate the effects of deprescribing antihypertensive medications on cognitive function in nursing home residents. The study included 12,644 residents and found that deprescribing was associated with less cognitive decline, particularly among those with dementia4. These findings and the two studies Michelle mentions in the podcast (DANTE and OPTIMIZE) suggest that carefully reducing medication use in older adults may help preserve cognitive function. However, the DANTON study adds more questions to that conclusion.

    Join us as we dive deeper into these studies and discuss the implications for clinical practice and patient care. Don’t miss this episode if you’re interested in the latest advancements in deprescribing research!

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    50 mins

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