Frank Lavin talks with Jonathan Martin, Senior Political Writer, Politico, to discuss the 2024 presidential race and what Harris and Trump each need to do in the final stretch. We also discuss Jonathan’s book, “This Will Not Pass,” as well as Richard Ben Cramer’s masterpiece of the 1988 presidential campaign, “What it Takes.” At least one swear word in this episode. If you need more than that, you can listen again.