Leaders of AI

Written by: Julia McCoy & David Shapiro
  • Summary

  • Leaders of AI is the go-to AI podcast that delivers real insights for today’s decision makers. About the hosts: Co-host Julia McCoy is an innovative entrepreneur who grew her name to one of the best in the world at content marketing, back when it was done 100% by humans. She sold her 100-person writing agency in 2021 to enter the realm of AI. Today, she lives, breathes and sleeps the science of how to bring businesses and marketing teams into the AI age, personally leading AI integrations for marketing teams at her AI consulting company First Movers. Co-host David Shapiro is one of the most respected voices on the internet regarding AGI and how automation will affect humanity, with a near-20 year background in building custom AI-driven infrastructure implemented by brands like NASA. Semi-retired, he writes, speaks and thinks the future of AI and humanity on Leaders of AI with Julia McCoy and special guests.
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Episodes
  • E12: AI, Ego Death, and the End of Reality? | Sam Rad | Leaders of AI
    Feb 24 2025

    Join Julia McCoy and Dave Shapiro in Episode 12 of Leaders of AI as they sit down with radical futurist and anthropologist Sam Rad, author of Radical Next. Dive into a mind-bending conversation about AI’s existential impact on humanity, societal collapse, and the rebirth of systems.

    💥Key topics discussed:

    • Societal paradigm shifts: Death and rebirth cycles of global systems (economy, governance, identity).
    • AI’s existential questions: “What does it mean to be human in a post-reality world?”
    • Perception manipulation: How tech (VR, algorithms, urban design) warps reality today.
    • Decentralized futures: Blockchains, DAOs, and the collapse of nation-states.
    • Art vs. AI: Why creativity is humanity’s last stand against bland AI-generated content.
    • Quantum computing: The coming “post-quantum” chaos and cognitive security threats.
    • Team Human: Balancing techno-optimism with radical reconnection to humanity.

    Order Sam’s groundbreaking book Radical Next and learn why the stakes have never been higher.

    🔥 Smash that LIKE button if you’re ready for the AI revolution, and SUBSCRIBE for weekly deep dives into tech’s future!

    Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731

    Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@leadersofaipodcast

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    Julia:

    https://www.instagram.com/juliaemccoy/

    https://www.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy

    Dave:

    https://x.com/DaveShapi

    https://www.youtube.com/@DaveShap

    Sam Rad:

    https://sam-rad.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/samradofficial/

    Learn About First Movers

    www.firstmovers.ai

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    39 mins
  • E11: DeepSeek-R1: The $5M AI Model Disrupting Silicon Valley | Leaders Of AI
    Feb 15 2025

    🚀 Episode 11 Alert! David Shapiro hosts John Gibbs (CEO of Automattic, PhD, and host of Doctor Know It All) for an explosive discussion on DeepSeek-R1—the Chinese AI model rattling global markets and rewriting AI economics.

    💥 In this episode:

    • Why NVIDIA’s stock crashed 17% overnight
    • Can a $5M open-source model outperform billion-dollar projects?
    • Geopolitical chess: China’s AI surge vs. Western dominance
    • The "Mozart Paradox": How constraints breed AI innovation
    • Ethical minefields: Copyright, job displacement, and AGI’s looming shadow

    🔍 John breaks down why synthetic data and self-play reinforcement learning could democratize AI, why Hollywood isn’t safe from disruption, and how leaders can navigate the AI arms race.

    🔥 FOLLOW for weekly deep dives into tech’s future!

    Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731

    Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@leadersofaipodcast

    Follow Hosts/Guests

    Julia:

    https://www.instagram.com/juliaemccoy/

    https://www.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy

    Dave:

    https://x.com/DaveShapi

    https://www.youtube.com/@DaveShap

    John Gibbs:

    https://www.youtube.com/DrKnowitallKnows

    https://www.instagram.com/drknowitallknows

    Learn About First Movers

    www.firstmovers.ai

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    53 mins
  • E10: The Future of Jobs, Governance, and Humanity | Emad Mostaque
    Feb 3 2025

    In this episode of Leaders of AI, we sit down with Emad Mostaque. Emad is the Founder & CEO of Intelligent Internet and Founder and Former CEO of Stability AI.

    Emad shares some chilling predictions about the future of work, revealing how AI will soon surpass human capabilities in nearly every field. He discusses the impending "end of jobs," the rise of AI-powered economies, and the urgent need for societal adaptation. Emad also offers crucial advice for navigating this AI-driven future, emphasizing the importance of embracing AI and developing new skills.

    Emad’s Article: When Capital No Longer Needs Labor, How Does Labor Gain Capital

    https://x.com/ii_posts/status/1877018732733612367

    Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaders-of-ai/id1776902731

    Watch YouTube to catch the video versions: https://www.youtube.com/@leadersofaipodcast

    Follow Hosts/Guests

    Julia:

    https://www.instagram.com/juliaemccoy/

    https://www.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy

    Dave:

    https://x.com/DaveShapi

    https://www.youtube.com/@DaveShap

    Emad:

    https://x.com/EMostaque

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    53 mins

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