To conclude the podcast series “Indefensible”, we created this podcast extra for listeners. It’s a conversation between Will Coley, the independent radio producer who created the series, and Mizue Aizeki, the Immigrant Defense Project’s Deputy Director. Will and Mizue talk about the larger context for the series. It’s been twenty years since the U.S. Congress made changes to the nation’s immigration system with the Illegal Immigration and Immigrant Responsibility Act and and how you as a listener can get involved. To get the most out of the discussion, we recommend listening to the previous episodes.