Purely IFS with Emma and Gayle

Written by: Gayle Williamson and Emma Redfern
  • Summary

  • Purely IFS is for you if you are a mental health professional who is transitioning to using the Internal Family Systems model with clients.
    Hosted by IFS psychotherapists Gayle Williamson and Emma Redfern, this show aims to support IFS beginners by offering clarity and discussion on the various aspects of the model and the key skills. We're also hoping that you'll get many useful additions to your IFS vocabulary and that our podcast will keep you engaged with learning this amazing approach.
    We put the emphasis on working as a 'pure' IFS therapist because IFS is a complete approach - it gives you just about everything you would ever need as a therapist. Combining it with other approaches not only makes it harder for beginners to master but dilutes the transformational power of what IFS offers.
    Join us each episode for stimulating and educational conversations.

    © 2025 Purely IFS with Emma and Gayle
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Episodes
  • Episode 12: the step-back process
    Feb 3 2025

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    In today’s episode, we’re focusing on the process of asking parts to step back. It's a part of the protocol that often causes a lot of uncertainty, about when to ask parts to step back, whether this was the right decision or not, or whether the part should have become the new target part instead.

    We talk about many of the different aspects of the step back process, give some case examples, and focus in on the language options - with particular focus on the difference between 'step back' and 'pull back'.



    Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
    See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.

    Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
    She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
    See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles.

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    26 mins
  • How IFS equips us as therapists and supervisors
    Nov 26 2024

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    In this episode, we're talking about just how well the IFS model equips us as therapists and supervisors. We provide plenty of useful examples and draw comparisons with traditional talk therapy.
    Both Gayle and Emma talk about their experience of being therapists prior to encountering IFS; and how equipped they now feel knowing there is always a part to talk to; and that there's always a way into some meaningful work.
    Let us know what you'd like us to tackle next!

    Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
    See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.

    Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
    She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
    See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles.

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    28 mins
  • Working with polarisations: Part two
    Sep 30 2024

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    IN part two of our focus on polarisations we look at polarisations involving more than two parts, polarisations across systems, eg, between client and therapist or parent and child; and addictive processes. We also discuss navigating conflicts in the wider world and how we can bring more Self to difficult conversations.

    *Details of the film we refer to: The Crisis in Gaza - Navigating difficult conversations: A Q&A with Dr Gabor Mate and Daniel Mate (available on the Science and Non-Duality website or YouTube)

    Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
    See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.

    Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
    She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
    See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles.

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    31 mins

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