Radical Sacred

Written by: Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke
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  • Summary

  • Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.

    For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore.

    Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation.

    Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:
    • What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?
    • Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?
    • Where do you experience the Holy?
    • If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?
    • How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?
    • Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?
    • How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?
    Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.

    Will you join them?
    Copyright Phillip Dieke
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Episodes
  • The Allurement of Nature: A Spiritual Journey with Victoria Loorz

    The Allurement of Nature: A Spiritual Journey with Victoria Loorz
    Jan 29 2025
    “We have lost relational language for the natural world and lost part of our own souls along with it.” - Victoria Loorz, author of Church of the Wild Wild Church Pastor, Eco Spiritual Director, author and founder of Center for Wild Spirituality Victoria Loorz wants us to reimagine our own wildness and our interconnectedness to the earth. Victoria’s invitation to reciprocity, relational language, and choosing to belong wherever you are is a breath of fresh mountain air in these tense times. In the face of looming empire Victoria honestly talks about what we’re facing and also imbibes us with the hope that can be found when we recognize the innate and inherent value in every living being. We are grateful for Victoria, her work around rewilding, and her reminder that the earth deeply loves us.

    Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways):
    Church of the Wild by Victoria Loorz
    Seminary of the Wild Earth
    Eco Spiritual Direction
    Braiding Sweet Grass by: Robin Wall Kimmerer
    Matter and Desire: An Erotic Ecology by: Andreas Weber

    Chapters
    00:00 The Allurement of Nature and Spiritual Connection
    04:30 Journey to the Center for Wild Spirituality
    09:00 Exploring the Sacred in Nature
    12:55 The Role of Conversation in Spirituality
    17:40 Grief, Connection, and the Presence of the Holy
    21:59 Finding Belonging in Unfamiliar Places
    32:36 The Spiritual Connection with Nature
    38:07 Language and Worldview: Nouns vs. Verbs
    44:46 The Role of Religion in Shifting Worldviews
    51:01 Reciprocity in Nature and Relationships
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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Rooted in a Future for Good: Inauguration Episode with Neil Moseley

    Rooted in a Future for Good: Inauguration Episode with Neil Moseley
    Jan 20 2025
    Neil Moseley, consultant, bird guide, and all around lovely human joins us for this Inauguration Day special. When we dig at the root of the word Inauguration we find an invitation to cast a future of our own imagining. If today feels particularly challenging to you, we want you to know that you are in good company. This conversation invites us all to notice how we feel, admit the reality of the challenges we face, to spend time processing with our best dumb-dumbs, to check in on our neighbors, and to be attuned to our intuition. In this next Trump era we invite you to be rooted in community, allurement, and love. We get to cast the future, friends. Let’s collectively make it something beautiful for all people.
    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    Pleasure Activism by: Adrienne Maree Brown
    The Three Evils of Society by MLK Jr.
    Exodus 1
    Spell for Grief or letting Go by: Adrienne Maree Brown
    Where to Find Neil Moseley: He cannot be found.

    As always, reach out to us if you are looking for community to process!

    Chapters
    00:00 A Spell for Grief: Embracing Loss and Healing
    05:02 The Meaning of Inauguration: Etymology and Future
    12:58 Exodus and Oppression: Lessons from History
    21:13 Local Organizing: Building Community in Difficult Times
    26:05 The Importance of Community Connections
    30:41 Finding Joy in Simple Organizing
    36:20 Nature and Spiritual Connection
    41:09 Intuition and Truth in Activism
    50:24 The Slow and Mysterious Work of Change
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    59 mins
  • Nathan Shultz on the Wisdom of Wild Places

    Nathan Shultz on the Wisdom of Wild Places
    Jan 15 2025
    Nathan Schultz, founder of Path Wise Ventures, joins us today to talk about the wisdom of wild places. Raised as a missionary kid outdoors, Nathan’s journey from coporate funraising to pilgrimage leader is one of following his own interior knowing. We dive into the importance of connecting with natural spaces, of following the call of our hearts, and of embracing mystery. Nathan’s imaginative view of the world reminds us that we’d all be better off if we remembered we were friends with the trees.

    Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways):
    Path Wise Ventures
    Center for Wild Spirituality
    Sometimes a Wild God - Tom Hirons
    Matthew Fox
    Bill Plotkin - Animist (Eco psychology)
    Gilead - Marilynne Robinson
    When I was the Forest - Meister Eckhart



    Chapters
    00:00 Exploring John Muir's Legacy and Evolution
    02:44 Nathan's Journey: From Missionary Kid to Eco-Spirituality
    05:40 The Concept of Rewilding and Its Personal Impact
    08:31 Walking in Reciprocity: A New Perspective on Pilgrimage
    11:21 Resistance and Transformation on the Spiritual Path
    13:59 Embodiment and the Journey Within
    16:47 The Monotony of Pilgrimage: Finding Depth in Repetition
    25:54 Nature as a Spiritual Guide
    27:41 Exploring Eco-Spirituality and Healing
    29:00 Encountering the Wild God
    31:25 Sources of Inspiration and Wisdom
    35:25 The Call for Reciprocity with Nature
    36:31 Emerging from Extinction: A New Perspective
    39:12 Building Communities for Sustainability
    39:18 Delighting in Connection with Nature
    43:00 Finding Guidance in Nature
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    45 mins

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