Elise is back for another Teacap. In this episode, Elise and I discuss a variety of topics ranging from personal health scares to the ethics of celebrity relationships. We delve into the recent controversy surrounding Cheryl Lloyd and the pressures of the music industry, as well as the implications of conservatorships, particularly in the case of Wendy Williams. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community, diverse perspectives, and the persistence required in both creative endeavors and personal challenges.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates08:17 Health Scares and Norovirus Discussion11:42 Writing Group and Community Engagement13:39 Industry Exploitation: Cheryl Lloyd's Revelation22:25 The Journey of Artists: Persistence and Growth26:02 The Rise of Fourth Wing and Author Recognition28:05 Podcasting Insights and Community Engagement29:30 Wendy Williams: A Complex Narrative32:21 Understanding Conservatorships and Their Implications46:32 Public Perception and Personal RightsFollow on Instagram:TOG: @thoseothergirlspodcastMal: @lifeasmalpalIsabel: @styleandsmileeThis is a Other Girls Media production.You are able to listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Google Podcast, Amazon Music, Pandora PLUS YouTube.Join ourPatreonSponsors:COL 192:https://col1972.com/ "thoseothergirls1972"America Women Beauty:https://americanwomanbeauty.net/ "mal15"Garnuu:https://garnuu.com/ "othergirls10"The Pink Rose:https://shopthepinkrose.com/ "othergirls10"Want more TOG?Get theappCheck out ...