The Effortless Podcast

Written by: Dheeraj Pandey Amit Prakash
  • Summary

  • Join longtime friends and entrepreneurs Dheeraj Pandey, founder of DevRev, and Amit Prakash, co-founder of ThoughtSpot, on The Effortless Podcast as they explore the art of building, innovating, and thriving in tech—without losing sight of what really matters. With decades of experience scaling companies and navigating risk, Dheeraj and Amit tackle tough questions for modern entrepreneurs: How can startups feel effortless in the face of endless challenges? What does “long-term greedy” mean when aligning personal growth with team success? Whether you're a seasoned founder, a new entrepreneur, or just curious, The Effortless Podcast offers something for everyone in the journey of building with purpose.
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Episodes
  • Dissecting DeepSeek: Understanding Reasoning, Hardware, and Decentralized AI - Episode 10 Part 2: The Effortless Podcast
    Feb 3 2025
    This is the second part of episode 10 of Effortless Podcast, hosts Dheeraj Pandey and Amit Prakash sit down with Alex Dimakis, a renowned AI researcher and professor, to discuss one of the biggest breakthroughs in open AI models—DeepSeek R1. They explore how DeepSeek’s innovations in reasoning, reinforcement learning, and efficiency optimizations are reshaping the AI landscape.The conversation covers the shift from large, proprietary AI models to open-source alternatives, the role of post-training fine-tuning, and how reinforcement learning (GRPO) enables reasoning capabilities in LLMs. They also dive into KV caching, mixture of experts, multi-token prediction, and what this means for NVIDIA, hardware players, and AI startups.Key Topics & Timestamps:[00:00] - Introduction & Why DeepSeek Matters[01:30] - DeepSeek R1: Open-Source AI Disrupting the Industry[03:00] - Has China Become an AI Innovator?[07:30] - Open Weights vs. Open Data: What Really Matters?[10:00] - KV Caching, Mixture of Experts & Model Optimizations[21:00] - How Reinforcement Learning (GRPO) Enables Reasoning[32:00] - Why OpenAI is Keeping Its Reasoning Traces Hidden[45:00] - The Impact of AI on NVIDIA & Hardware Demand[1:02:00] - AGI: Language Models vs. Multimodal AI[1:15:00] - The Future of AI: Fine-Tuning, Open-Source & Specialized ModelsHosts:Dheeraj Pandey: Co-founder and CEO at DevRev, formerly Co-founder and CEO of Nutanix. A tech visionary with a deep interest in AI and systems thinking.Amit Prakash: Co-founder and CTO at ThoughtSpot, formerly at Google AdSense and Bing, with extensive expertise in analytics and large-scale systems.Guest:Alex Dimakis: Professor at UC Berkeley and co-founder of Bespoke Labs, Alex has made significant contributions to deep learning, machine learning infrastructure, and the development of AI reasoning frameworks.Follow the Hosts and the Guest:Dheeraj Pandey:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpandeyTwitter - https://x.com/dheerajAmit Prakash:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amit-prak...Twitter - https://x.com/amitp42Alex Dimakis:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-dima...Twitter - https://x.com/AlexGDimakisShare Your Thoughts:Have questions, comments, or ideas for future episodes? Email us at EffortlessPodcastHQ@gmail.comDon’t forget to Like, Comment, and Subscribe for more in-depth discussions on AI, technology, and innovation!
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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • Alex Dimakis on Post-Training AI: To deep seek or not, that’s the $1 trillion question! - Episode 10 Part 2: The Effortless Podcast
    Jan 27 2025

    In this episode of the Effortless Podcast, hosts Dheeraj Pandey and Amit Prakash sit down with Alex Dimakis, a renowned AI researcher and professor at UC Berkeley. With a background in deep learning, graphical models, and foundational AI frameworks, Alex provides unparalleled insights into the evolving landscape of AI.

    The discussion delves into the detailing of foundation models, modular AI architectures, fine-tuning, and the role of synthetic data in post-training. They also explore practical applications, challenges in creating reasoning frameworks, and the future of AI specialization and generalization.

    As Alex puts it, "To deep seek or not, that’s the $1 trillion question." Tune in to hear his take on how companies can bridge the gap between large generalist models and smaller specialized agents to achieve meaningful AI outcomes.

    Key Topics and Chapter Markers:

    • Introduction to Alex Dimakis & His Journey [0:00]
    • From Foundation Models to Modular AI Systems [6:00]
    • Fine-Tuning vs. Prompting: Understanding Post-Training [15:00]
    • Synthetic Data in AI Development: Challenges and Solutions [25:00]
    • The Role of Reasoning and Chain of Thought in AI [45:00]
    • AI's Future: Specialized Models vs. General Systems [1:05:00]
    • Alex’s Reflections on AI Research and Innovation [1:20:00]

    Hosts:

    • Dheeraj Pandey: Co-founder and CEO at DevRev, formerly Co-founder and CEO of Nutanix. A tech visionary with a deep interest in AI and systems thinking.
    • Amit Prakash: Co-founder and CTO at ThoughtSpot, formerly at Google AdSense and Bing, with extensive expertise in analytics and large-scale systems.

    Guest:
    Alex Dimakis: Professor at UC Berkeley and co-founder of Bespoke Labs, Alex has made significant contributions to deep learning, machine learning infrastructure, and the development of AI reasoning frameworks.

    Follow the Hosts and the Guest:

    • Dheeraj Pandey:
      • LinkedIn: Dheeraj Pandey
      • Twitter: @dheeraj
    • Amit Prakash:
      • LinkedIn: Amit Prakash
      • Twitter: @amitp42
    • Alex Shtoyanov:
      • LinkedIn: Alex Dimakis
      • Twitter: @AlexGDimakis

    Share Your Thoughts:
    Have questions, comments, or ideas for future episodes? Email us at EffortlessPodcastHQ@gmail.com

    Don’t forget to Like, Comment, and Subscribe for more in-depth discussions on AI, technology, and innovation!

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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • Rajat Monga on TensorFlow, Startups, and the Future of AI - Episode 09: The Effortless Podcast
    Dec 18 2024

    In this special guest episode of the Effortless Podcast, Amit Prakash sits down with Rajat Monga, the creator of TensorFlow and current Corporate Vice President of Engineering at Microsoft. With a career spanning Google Brain, founding Inference, and leading AI inferencing at Microsoft, Rajat offers a unique perspective on the evolution of AI. The conversation dives into TensorFlow’s revolutionary impact, the challenges of building startups, the rise of PyTorch, the future of inferencing, and how transformative tools like GPT-4 and OpenAI’s Gemini are reshaping the AI landscape.

    Key Topics and Chapter Markers:

    Introduction to Rajat Monga & TensorFlow Legacy [0:00]

    The inflection points in AI: TensorFlow's role and challenges [6:00]

    PyTorch vs. TensorFlow: A tale of shifting paradigms [16:00]

    The startup journey: Building Inference and lessons learned [27:00]

    Exploring O1 and advancements in reasoning frameworks [54:00]

    AI inference: Cost optimizations and hardware innovations [57:00]

    Agents, trust, and validation: AI in decision-making workflows [1:05:00]

    Rajat’s personal journey: Tools for resilience and finding balance [1:20:00]

    Host:

    Amit Prakash: Co-founder and CTO at ThoughtSpot, formerly at Google AdSense and Bing, and a PhD in Computer Engineering. Amit has a strong track record in analytics, machine learning, and large-scale systems.

    Follow Amit on:

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amit-prakash-50719a2/

    X (Twitter) - https://x.com/amitp42

    Guest:

    Rajat Monga: He is a pioneer in the AI industry, best known as the co-creator of TensorFlow. He has held senior roles at Google Brain and Microsoft, shaping the foundational tools that power today’s AI systems. Rajat also co-founded Inference, a startup focused on anomaly detection in data analytics. At Microsoft, he leads AI software engineering, advancing inferencing infrastructure for the next generation of AI applications. He holds a Btech Degree from IIT, Delhi.

    Follow Rajat on:

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajatmonga/

    X (Twitter) - https://twitter.com/rajatmonga

    Share Your Thoughts: Have questions or comments? Drop us a mail at EffortlessPodcastHQ@gmail.com

    Email: EffortlessPodcastHQ@gmail.com

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    1 hr and 28 mins

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