Mark W. Bennett (45:24.671)
Sharif. And it's an art form. You know, there lots of rules, rules of separate procedure, rules of evidence, rules of criminal procedure. I get all that. But the bottom line is most part of trial work is the gray area. And so my philosophy always was, as a lawyer was, unless the judge has stopped me, I haven't gone far enough.

Mark W. Bennett (45:51.254)
And if the judge stops me, I have to be very graceful in apologizing and backing off. But you can get away with a lot of stuff before a judge is going to stop you. And you can't be fearful of pushing the boundaries because we don't know where those boundaries end. And they're different for every judge you practice in Brownhoof. The boundaries can be very different. And so...


Mark W. Bennett (01:05:45.772)
You have to have the desire and passion to be the best that you can be. And that takes an incredible amount of hard work. You have to find role models. It's good to read about it, but you have to watch and, and you have to second chair really good trial lawyers. And then you have to be fearless. You have to be fearless. Cause

Mark W. Bennett (01:06:14.7)
Not every trial is going to go like you thought it was going to go. Things are going to go south and you have to pick yourself up and learn from that and not be discouraged by it. The word is gritty. You have to be gritty. I Jerry Spence is a great example. He flunked the Colorado bar. mean, the yeah, the Colorado bar once, I think maybe twice, he lost his first state civil jury trials.

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