The Other Side of Things

Written by: Michael Brant DeMaria Ph.D.
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  • No one knows everything, but everyone knows something no one else knows. In this time of crisis and chaos in culture and nature there is a dire need for honoring all sides of things. We have lost the art of nuance and subtlety. On The Other Side of Things Michael will take you on a deep AND accessible way of looking at yourself, others and the world so you can find a lucid sanity grounded in deep mystery. We will be exploring taboo topics around love, sex, death and madness. You can always check out his Musitations podcast for creativity as a healing, meditative modality as well.
    ©Michael Brant DeMaria 2023
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Episodes
  • The Other Side of Things (Ep 07) - "Moments of Eternity" with Michael Meade
    Dec 5 2024
    00:00 Introduction01:00 Who is Michael Meade?03:20 What Michael is tracking post election?04:00 Manu and the Fish - a story about the origin of human consciousness08:00 Moving from the Law of the Fishes to the Law of Manu10:30 How do we feed that 'little fish' in our own life.11:00 When we are following our calling we can deal with big heavy duty issues!12:00 The fish is the most ancient symbol of the deep self.14:00 Something bigger and deeper than politics.15:30 We are in a collective Rite of Passage.17:41 Apocalypsis - Collapse/Renewal - both and - a powerful time to find ourselves!20:20 Michael's soul initiation in solitary confinement - a deep initiatory descent22:30 When you have nothing left - what is left is you and truly yours...23:41 What is indestructible within us?24:35 Soulchosis and the Mythic level of reality.26:30 Michael's difficulty reweaving his way into consensus reality after his soul intiation.27:25 Everyone has an experience of the deep self or they would die.30:00 When the outside world doesn't work, we must work fall back to the inner world!33:00 We are threaded to a destiny - it comes as a whisper...not a trumpet!34:22 Michael's breakthrough where stories came alive while drumming and storytelling.39:00 We are each a flute that God is here to play - Hafiz40:30 When we are living in alignment with our inner 'geniurs/angel' we are deeply protected.44:40 Finding Your Soul tribe.45:00 our originality is coming from the Origin of Life...it isn't our it belongs to life46:00 Our little self resists the full unfolding of our soul's destiny.48:00 We are here to be like flowers - turn ourselves inside out!49:20 Opening ourselves to the cosmic dancing, singing, streaming of divine wisdom50:45 Traditionally those who were seen as 'crazy' were apprenticed to the shamans.54:10 More people on the edge of madness and suicide today we need more community.55:00 By helping the one suffering actually heals the community.55:20 If a culture can come together around a person having a psychotic break all can heal.57:40 The Lapland Shamanic traditions and Open Dialogue's approach to psychosis in Finland.58:00 Bone memory - we have access to these old ancient knowing and the streaming wisdom.1:00:00 Such freedom when following the streaming - and the origin of healing and healing songs1:01:00 The Origin of Healing Rituals and Songs1:04:00 The importance of standing in the Not-Knowing and tolerating the Chaos1:08:00 Every day has a moment of Eternity waiting for you!1:09:00 Music is the Healing Road 1:10:00 Be Your Note!!I'm thrilled to share this episode with you! I've been a fan of Michaels work for over 30 years and it was a true joy having him on the show!In this episode of The Other Side of Things, we will delve into themes of creation as recreation, the meaning of wisdom and genius, and the myths that can guide us through apocalyptic times. We’ll also explore Michael's own soul initiation during his time in solitary confinement, the importance of storytelling in dark times, and his very unique perspective on psychosis and this time of collective rite of passage we are all on globally in the areas of nature and culture.Michael Meade is a renowned storyteller, author, and mythologist whose work weaves together ancient wisdom, poetic insight, and depth psychology to explore the profound challenges and opportunities of our time. With decades of experience, Meade is celebrated for his unique ability to blend mythic stories with modern issues, illuminating how timeless truths can guide individuals and societies through crises.As the founder of the Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, Meade has dedicated his life to fostering unity and understanding across diverse communities. His teachings focus on the essential role of myth, genius, and creativity in times of chaos, urging people to embrace their inner gifts and life purpose. A masterful speaker and captivating orator, he connects deeply with audiences by drawing on mythological archetypes, cultural history, and transformative storytelling.Meade is the author of several acclaimed books, including The Genius Myth, Awakening the Soul, Fate and Destiny, and Why the World Doesn't End. His podcast, Living Myth, has become a powerful platform for exploring the intersection of mythology, psychology, and cultural change. His work resonates with seekers, creatives, and leaders alike, inspiring hope and wisdom in uncertain times.Website: https://www.mosaicvoices.org/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MichaelMeadeMosaicInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaelmeade_mosaicYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw8wVAkj4OB4QL93nQu0fYRoBJj1IURriMichael DeMaria's Links:https://michaeldemaria.com/https://www.facebook.com/DrMichaelDeMaria/https://www.instagram.com/drmichaeldemaria/Music Links: https://listen.michaeldemaria.com/mbdAll Michael's Links: https://michaeldemaria.com/michaels-links/
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    1 hr and 11 mins
  • The Other Side of Things (Ep 06) - "Intimacy with All Things" with Alyssa Morin
    Nov 11 2024
    00:00 Introduction01:17 Who is Alyssa Morin?02:22 Michael's early trauma03:35 Gwyneth Paltrow Love, Sex and Goop04:00 What is Somatic Sex Education? 05:00 Alyssa's background in Zen, Soulwork and being a minister's daughter.06:00 Alyssa's journey to SSE and what it is.09:35 Let me dive into everything during her first Saturn Return11:00 Caffyn Jesse and healing circumcision trauma13:00 Zen practice as a prelude to SSE14:50 The power of lineage and containers15:45 Dogen, "Enlightenment is intimacy with all things." 19:00 Sitting with whatever arises.20:50 Eros/Life Force and Aliveness.23:00 Eros/Psyche/Natura - bringing opposites into relationship and longing.24:00 Meaning of Rilke's phrase, "Go to the limits of your longing." 28:50 How do you bring a soulcentric/soulwork approach to your work?29:50 The Soulwork Lineage of Bill Plotkin and her teachers32:30 Sexuality, Trauma and Initiatory experiences and finding meaning in the suffering36:00 Art as Ritual/Ritual as Art37:40 Self-designed Ceremony41:00 Losing the Sacred42:00 The Verdant Collective 45:11 Women exploring their belonging and regulating their nervous systems47:00 Pleasure and Please have the same root word - does this please you?48:50 The power of listening49:30 Your sexuality is yours!50:00 Somatic Sex Education in more detail51:40 Your arousal IS the event55:30 Closing Comments and ThoughtsI came across Alyssa's work as part of my own healing journey after watching the riveting and painful documentary American Circumcision. It triggered some old trauma's from multiple surgeries I had between the ages of birth and age 7. It hit me really hard. I came across the work of Caffyn Jesse who offered a free online training for those who may have been traumatized by the experience. It was life changing. She was one of the founders of Somatic Sex Education, and it turned out I would later discover trained Alyssa. When I went to explore this area of healing further I came across Alyssa's website which was VERY different then most of those working in the space. Having grown up Catholic, I was struck first that she was a minister's daughter, secondly that she practiced Zen meditation (something I had done since the age of 18) and thirdly she worked within the lineage of Bill Plotkin, Ph.D., the author of such books as Soulcraft and Nature and the Human Soul. I trained with Bill in the 90's and worked closely with him on my way to being a wilderness vision fast guide for many years. I knew immediately the kinship in our backgrounds would make Alyssa the perfect resource for me to work on my own deeper healing of my childhood trauma's. I'm so glad she has agreed to be on the show. You'll truly enjoy her depth, authenticity, heart and soulful sharing of her wisdom. A bit more about Alyssa:Alyssa Morin is a soulcentric Somatic Sex Educator, and Relationship and Intimacy Guide. Her work with individuals, couples and groups traverses a wide range: from practical, applicable, matter-of-fact sex education and problem-solving, to sensual, inexorable, earth-shattering magick, to clear self-knowing — all through the body. And on her website:Connection, yes. Making babies, got it. But pleasure? Fun? A way to express and come to understand the many sides of myself, a portal into altered states of consciousness? All of that was buried under fear, embarrassment, misunderstandings, trauma, and shame.The journey to where I stand now, a Somatic Sex Educator, was a winding and meandering one. Undergraduate studies in college lead to a degree in journalism, taught me to think for myself, and revealed that most of the questions I was interested in asking would not be answered – probably could not even be asked – in the ivy covered halls of academia.Twenty-two years spent in gymnastics facilities, as both athlete and coach, taught me much about the body, its mechanics, its beauty and grace. I learned of sacrifice and devotion, pain and frustration, triumph and failure, friendship and betrayal. I learned what humans need to relax into and trust another to catch them as they hurl their bodies through the air, while refining a capacity to look deeply into complexity and find and name the simple adjustment that can change everything.Deep dives into the relational practice Circling, as well as Zen Meditation, and Women’s Culture and Community, along with medicine journeys and soul work, slowly peeled back layers to reveal the truth that had perhaps existed all along: Embodiment, sexuality, eros, intimacy, and relationships are my work.Alyssa's website: https://www.alyssamorin.org/The Verdant Collective Website: https://www.theverdantcollective.com/Michael's website: https://michaeldemaria.com/
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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • The Other Side of Things (Ep 05) - "All The Honey" with Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer #poetry #healing
    Aug 24 2024

    00:00 Introduction
    01:40 Who is Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer?
    03:10 All The Honey
    04:20 How did you become a poet?
    07:50 What opened your heart as a child?
    08:19 A poem a day.
    09:20 "I wrote the first bare line...pure wisdom...pure foolishness"
    10:40 Poetry and dealing with darkness and her son's death.
    14:00 Turning Towards What is True.
    14:43 It doesn't have to be good, it just has to be true.
    16:00 How my daily practice of writing helped me not shut down.
    16:34 Finn's amazing light, compassion and how he shined so brightly.
    21:22 Wrestling with being true - a poem.
    22:50 The friction of contradiction becoming the poetry of paradox
    23:49 POEM: Two Truths (about her son's death)
    26:00 How those we love become more present through their physical abscence...
    27:00 The necessity of creativity to survive the greatest challenges and traumas
    28:40 It is in our most desperate places that we need creativity to survive
    29:00 The importance of community - sharing our creativity with others.
    30:00 Loss is the place beauty starts...
    32:00 Van Gogh and a multi-media project that was so healing
    32:54 A synchronicity with a bunnie appearing during our interview!
    36:00 Vincent Van Gogh's sister-in-law and brother Theo having preserved his legacy.
    37:50 Bearing the fruit we came here to bear.
    40:00 How can we see our story so we can see through the story.
    42:00 POEM: The Invitation
    44:40 Hearing silence more deeply...and silence as a powerful honoring...
    47:00 Who are your people?
    48:46 People of the Twilight
    50:35 Living with a foot in both worlds
    51:37 Rilke and the Darkness - Faith in Night
    54:20 Endarkenment
    58:30 Wanting to Die
    1:03:00 Poignant Mysterious Synchronicities with Finn
    1:06:00 Amor Fati and honoring what happens on the River of Life
    1:10:00 Connecting with those on the other side of things...
    1:13:00 Being with What Is...
    1:14:38 POEM: Going Deeper Into The Mystery
    1:16:43 Spaciousness of Heart
    1:18:55 Being Carried
    1:22:00 NEW BOOK: "The Unfolding" comes out in October

    I came across one of Rosemerry's poem and was immediately hooked by her authenticity and depth in her poetry. After reaching out to her and receiving such a kind response I was so grateful for her willingness to be on The Other Side of things!

    Be prepared for one of our deepest dives on The Other Side of Things. Our soulversation took us into some profound spaces and silences that I found personally so deeply enriching and meaningful. I felt truly transformed by our time together, and I hope you will too.

    Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer co-hosts Emerging Form (a podcast on creative process), Secret Agents of Change (a surreptitious kindness cabal) and Soul Writer’s Circle. Her poetry has appeared on A Prairie Home Companion, PBS News Hour, O Magazine, American Life in Poetry, on Carnegie Hall stage, and on river rocks she leaves around town. Her collection Hush won the Halcyon Prize. Naked for Tea was a finalist for the Able Muse Book Award. Rosemerry has been writing and sharing a poem a day since 2006—a practice that especially nourished her after the death of her teenage son in 2021. Find her daily poems on her blog, A Hundred Falling Veils or a curated version (with optional prompts) on her daily audio series, The Poetic Path, available on your phone with the Ritual app. She is the author of Exploring Poetry of Presence II: Prompts to deepen your writing practice, and her poetry album, Dark Praise, explores “endarkenment,” available anywhere you listen to music. Her most recent collection is All the Honey, and in October, 2024 she’ll release The Unfolding with Wildhouse Publishing. In January 2024, she became the first poet laureate for Evermore, and is helping others explore grief, bereavement, wonder and love through poetry.

    Website: https://www.wordwoman.com/
    Daily poetry blog: https://ahundredfallingveils.com/
    Daily poetry app for your phone: https://app.ritual.io/rosemerry
    Podcast on creative process: Emerging Form http://emergingform.com/
    Newest Book: All the Honey https://bookshop.org/p/books/all-the-honey-rosemerry-wahtola-trommer/18666020
    TEDx: The Art of Changing Metaphors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXC3-ZFkhDo
    Poetry album on “Endarkenment”: Dark Praise https://rosemerrywahtolatrommer.bandcamp.com/album/dark-praise
    Upcoming Book: Unfolding https://wildhousepublishing.com/the-unfolding/

    Michael's website: https://michaeldemaria.com/

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    1 hr and 27 mins

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