One of the surprises of 2024 was the absence of rate cuts in Australia.

What happened and how long will the Reserve Bank sit on its hands?

Pendal’s head of income strategies AMY XI PATRICK explains in this review of 2024 and outlook for 2025.

This is our final podcast for 2024. We wish our listeners a happy and safe Christmas and new year. We will return in 2025.

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For years, Australian investors flocked to bank hybrid securities as a cornerstone of income-generating portfolios.

Hybrids — debt instruments issued by banks that can convert to equity in times of trouble — have been popular with everyday investors due to their accessibility.

But investors will soon need to find alternatives, after regulators announced plans to phase them out from 2027.

In her latest podcast, Pendal’s head of income strategies Amy Xie Patrick explains the options for investors.

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This week’s Aussie inflation data was a mixed bag. While the headline number dropped into the RBA’s target range at 2.8%, the trimmed measure remained above target at 3.5%.

It will take a few more quarters until the more important trimmed measure heads down towards 3%, says Pendal’s head of government bonds Tim Hext in a new fast podcast.

Tim doesn’t expect a rates move before the RBA’s February meeting. “There won't be enough information by December. The market is 50-50 on whether they'll cut rates there.”

For bond investors Tim sees value in some areas after the recent sell-off.

In this podcast, Tim also covers the impact of next week’s US election and war in the Middle East.

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Pendal’s head of income strategies AMY XIE PATRICK explains the latest market volatility, rates outlook and why she believes investors should be thinking about their defensive allocation.

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The information in this podcast may contain material provided by third parties, is given in good faith and has been derived from sources believed to be accurate as at its issue date. While such material is published with necessary permission, and while all reasonable care has been taken to ensure that the information in this presentation is complete and correct, to the maximum extent permitted by law neither Pendal nor any company in the Pendal group accepts any responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of this information.

Any projections contained in this podcast is predictive and should not be relied upon when making an investment decision or recommendation. While we have used every effort to ensure that the assumptions on which the projections are based are reasonable, the projections may be based on incorrect assumptions or may not take into account known or unknown risks and uncertainties. The actual results may differ materially from these projections.

Performance figures are calculated in accordance with the Financial Services Council (FSC) standards. Performance data (post-fee) assumes reinvestment of distributions and is calculated using exit prices, net of management costs. Performance data (pre-fee) is calculated by adding back management costs to the post-fee performance. Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance.

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August is a live meeting in terms of potential rate changes – and next week’s CPI figures will be key to the decision, says Pendal's head of bond strategies Tim Hext in this fast podcast.

A higher-than-expected CPI number could prompt a hike. A lower-than-expected number would likely mean rates stay where they are.

However, if an August rate hike eventuates, investors should largely ignore it, Tim argues.

“I think they will be cutting rates early next year. Whether they hike in early August or not, I think the environment will be far more friendly for inflation. “

In this podcast Tim explains why – and what it means for bonds.

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The information in this podcast may contain material provided by third parties, is given in good faith and has been derived from sources believed to be accurate as at its issue date. While such material is published with necessary permission, and while all reasonable care has been taken to ensure that the information in this presentation is complete and correct, to the maximum extent permitted by law neither Pendal nor any company in the Pendal group accepts any responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of this information.

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Investors have been getting used to good news on inflation.

But does the latest US data suggest we’re getting ahead of ourselves?

In this new fast podcast Pendal’s head of bond strategies TIM HEXT reviews the evidence and explains why he still thinks there's juice left in bonds.

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The information in this podcast may contain material provided by third parties, is given in good faith and has been derived from sources believed to be accurate as at its issue date. While such material is published with necessary permission, and while all reasonable care has been taken to ensure that the information in this presentation is complete and correct, to the maximum extent permitted by law neither Pendal nor any company in the Pendal group accepts any responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of this information.

Any projections contained in this podcast is predictive and should not be relied upon when making an investment decision or recommendation. While we have used every effort to ensure that the assumptions on which the projections are based are reasonable, the projections may be based on incorrect assumptions or may not take into account known or unknown risks and uncertainties. The actual results may differ materially from these projections.

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Reckon you’ve got 2024 figure out?

Stay on your toes, because markets could go in any direction this year, says Pendal’s head of income strategies AMY XIE PATRICK in our latest podcast.

In this edition Amy explains the risks that investors may not be considering and how she is preparing her income portfolios.

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The information in this podcast may contain material provided by third parties, is given in good faith and has been derived from sources believed to be accurate as at its issue date. While such material is published with necessary permission, and while all reasonable care has been taken to ensure that the information in this presentation is complete and correct, to the maximum extent permitted by law neither Pendal nor any company in the Pendal group accepts any responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of this information.

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Have investors missed the boat on bonds after they touched 5% in October?

No, says Pendal’s head of bond strategies Tim Hext. In this latest Pendal fast podcast he explains why.

"When I look across the spectrum of what you can buy in bonds, government bonds are around 4.5%, state government bonds 5.25% and bank debt around 6%.

"On term deposits, my question to investors would be: Okay, let's assume term deposits are at 5% and you're locking yourself into those with no liquidity.

"Where do you think on average they're going to be over the next five or 10 years?"

"I think most people would assume they're going to be a little bit lower, not higher; and that cash rates will come down rather than go up a lot more.

"And yet, right now you can lock in, for five or 10 years, rates above 5% in bonds.

"The other advantage of bonds is that they're liquid.

"You can sell them anytime. You're not locked up like you are in a term deposit.

"That's particularly important, that if you saw a sudden sharp sell-off in equities and you're wanting to buy them — but your money's locked up in term deposits."

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The information in this podcast may contain material provided by third parties, is given in good faith and has been derived from sources believed to be accurate as at its issue date. While such material is published with necessary permission, and while all reasonable care has been taken to ensure that the information in this presentation is complete and correct, to the maximum extent permitted by law neither Pendal nor any company in the Pendal group accepts any responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of this information.

Any projections contained in this podcast is predictive and should not be relied upon when making an investment decision or recommendation. While we have used every effort to ensure that the assumptions on which the projections are based are reasonable, the projections may be based on incorrect assumptions or may not take into account known or unknown risks and uncertainties. The actual results may differ materially from these projections.

Performance figures are calculated in accordance with the Financial Services Council (FSC) standards. Performance data (post-fee) assumes reinvestment of distributions and is calculated using exit prices, net of management costs. Performance data (pre-fee) is calculated by adding back management costs to the post-fee performance. Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance.

For more information, please call Customer Relations on 1300 346 821 8am to 6pm (Sydney time) or visit our website www.pendalgroup.com

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