In this episode, Emily and Edmund dive into the Catechism’s call to make prayer “the life of the new heart” (CCC 2697), exploring how daily rhythms and personal expressions of prayer deepen our relationship with Jesus. They reflect on the importance of modeling prayer for others, learning from witnesses, and creating space for personal encounters with God. Practical tips include building habits of prayer, incorporating lectio divina, and fostering prayer in the domestic church. They also address common struggles like distraction, dryness, lack of faith, and acedia, offering insights from the Catechism and encouragement to persevere in a life of prayer powered by trust and grace.

(00:00) Emily and Edmund open this episode discussing the Catechism’s call to make prayer “the life of the new heart” (CCC 2697), emphasizing the importance of daily rhythms and personal expressions of prayer. They encourage catechists to witness a prayerful life, blending structure and spontaneity, as they model walking with Jesus in our daily relationship with Him.

(07:20) Emily and Edmund reflect on the importance of modeling prayer for others and learning from witnesses of daily rhythms of prayer. They discuss creating space for personal encounters with God, turning inward to the heart where prayer begins, and allowing the Holy Spirit to guide deeper connections in evangelization and catechesis.

(14:08) The conversation shifts to building habits of prayer through techniques like habit stacking and incorporating prayer into daily routines. They explore the three expressions of prayer—vocal, meditative, and contemplative—and offer practical tips for introducing meditative prayer, like using lectio divina, to foster deeper reflection and connection with God.

(21:09) Emily and Edmund discuss building habits of prayer in daily life, emphasizing the role of the domestic church in fostering rhythms of prayer. They explore common difficulties in prayer—distraction and dryness—offering insights from the Catechism on how these challenges can reveal attachments, prompt self-reflection, and invite deeper conversion of the heart.

(28:11) Emily and Edmund explore the struggles and joys of prayer, reflecting on the Catechism’s insights into distraction, dryness, lack of faith, and acedia as challenges in the life of prayer. They offer practical takeaways for fostering a daily walk with Jesus, emphasizing trust, grace, and openness to the Holy Spirit.

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In this episode of the Real+True podcast, hosts Emily Mentock and Edmund Mitchell explore prayer's wellsprings in the Holy Spirit and the Church. They discuss the use of Church documents, the Catechism, Scripture, and formal prayers in evangelization and catechesis. They also talk about the importance of the liturgy in evangelization and catechesis, and practical steps for making prayer a more profound and personal experience for others. The episode also covers the role of aspiration prayers, the liturgical calendar, and the significance of recognizing God's presence in everyday life.

00:00 - Emily and Edmund discuss learning to pray personally and with the Church, highlighting the Catechism’s four wellsprings of prayer: Scripture, liturgy, the virtues, and Christian living. They share practical tips for encountering Jesus through Scripture and emphasize prayer as a relationship that deepens through the liturgy.

08:47 - The conversation dives deeper into practical ways to help others pray with scripture and liturgy, emphasizing the call-and-response dynamic and the Liturgy of the Hours. These practices can help us even outside of Mass and train our hearts to engage deeply with prayer, Scripture, and the rhythms of the Church’s liturgical life.

17:06 - Emily and Edmund explore aspiration prayers—short, scriptural prayers like “Come, Holy Spirit”—as a way to “pray without ceasing” and integrate prayer into daily life. They discuss teaching these prayers, connecting them to liturgy, and unlocking deeper meaning behind structured prayers to enrich catechesis and evangelization.

27:50 - Emily and Edmund discuss encountering God today through prayer, inspired by Brother Lawrence’s Practice of Presence and the Catechism’s call to embrace the present moment (CCC 2659). They highlight prayer as a journey of the heart, guided by the theological virtues—faith, hope, and love—as the foundation of our relationship with God.

33:52 - The episode ends with a recap of the importance of teaching others to “fish” by leading them to the Church’s wellsprings where Jesus waits. They encourage catechists to revisit these wellsprings, including Church documents, for inspiration and to deepen their own encounter with Christ.

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Summary: In this episode of The Real+True Podcast, co-hosts Edmund Mitchell and Emily Mentock explore part four of the Catechism, focusing on Christian prayer and its roots in the Old Testament. They discuss prayer and Scripture and how the gradual revelation of God in the Old Testament can deepen our prayer life. Key figures such as Abraham, Moses, David, and the prophets are highlighted, showcasing each one’s example that contributes to God’s revelation of prayer and our relationship with God. The episode also covers the role of the Psalms as a 'school of prayer' and delves into the dynamics of praying within the Holy Trinity. The episode concludes with practical insights and advice for using Scripture effectively in catechesis and evangelization.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction and Mission
Emily and Edmund introduce the podcast, sharing their excitement about exploring the Catechism, particularly focusing on the section on Christian prayer. They aim to equip listeners with insights for using the Catechism for evangelization and catechesis on prayer, specifically using Scripture. Edmund outlines that the current unit emphasizes prayer in both the Old and New Testaments, pointing to God’s invitation to a covenant relationship through prayer.

01:23 Personal Stories of Prayer
Edmund and Emily share personal stories of how prayer and Scripture have impacted their spiritual lives. Emily recounts a profound experience in the Sacrament of Reconciliation that opened her eyes to the enduring mercy of God, while Edmund shares a touching moment where he sensed God's affirming voice during a difficult time.

06:29 Understanding God's Voice
Emily elaborates on how people often struggle to recognize God’s voice in their lives, stressing the importance of engaging with Scripture as a way to become familiar with it. They discuss the significance of hearing and reading Scripture, both personally and communally, for understanding and maintaining a relationship with God.

09:27 Catechism Insights on Prayer
Edmund and Emily discuss the catechism’s breakdown of prayer through various figures in the Old Testament. Starting with Creation and Adam and Eve, moving through Abraham’s faith, Moses’ intercession, David’s prayer in the presence of God, and the prophets' calls for conversion, they emphasize the gradual revelation of God’s relationship with His people.

19:09 The Depth and Beauty of the Psalms
The hosts express their admiration for the Psalms, highlighting Pope Benedict’s description of them as a school of prayer. They discuss how the Psalms encompass all five expressions of prayer and serve as a foundational model for both personal and communal prayer practices.

21:10 Jesus: The Fulfillment of Prayer
Emily and Edmund describe Jesus as the culmination and fulfillment of all Old Testament examples of prayer, providing the perfect model of prayer and relationship with God. They emphasize the importance of praying through Jesus to the Father in the Holy Spirit, explaining how the Holy Spirit aids and perfects our prayer.

26:48 Practical Tips for Incorporating Scripture and Prayer
They offer practical advice on teaching and integrating Scripture and prayer, suggesting the use of the Catechism’s structure for understanding the story of salvation. They stress the importance of embodying and speaking God's word naturally in catechesis and evangelization.

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