Too many of us are so addicted to the rush of something new that we've accepted that anything that gets repeated has to become boring or stale. But repetition is only a bad thing when we're repeating bad things! I repeat: repetition is only a...

You get the idea.

So let's change the narrative, and get busy repeating what needs to be repeated. As you'll find out in this episode of The Reluctant Leader Podcast, some of the best things in life are born with the power of repetition.

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I've always been motivated by JFK's "we do them because they are hard" speech, and clearly, so was our country because we did get to the moon (regardless of what conspiracy theorists might think). But what happens after we've done hard things and we need time to rest and recover? Maybe more importantly, how do we find the strength to get back up and do another hard thing?

In this episode, Paul reminds us that while we may need to step back from time to time, we were never made to shrink back from hard things.

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Thanks for listening to The Reluctant Leader Podcast with Paul Jenkins! Find me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, and be sure to read the stuff I'm writing on my blog.

Did you know that I've launched a brand new weekly newsletter designed to help you crush Mondays and get your week off the ground? It's short, fun, a little quirky, and people are loving it! You can subscribe to The Launch Pad here.

In this interview, we take a deep dive with Karl Vaters, a seasoned pastor and author, as he challenges the conventional obsession with church size. For over 40 years, Carl has been an advocate for small churches and has worked to redefine success beyond just mere numbers.

Whether you're a church leader feeling the pressure to grow or just curious about the future of faith in America, I think you’ll find this interview fascinating, and Karl’s perspective refreshing.

More from Karl:
Visit his website at karlvaters.com to connect with Karl on all his socials
Grab his newest book, De-Sizing the Church, on Amazon and other retailers
Karl's podcast, The Church Lobby, is worth a listen!

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Thanks for listening to The Reluctant Leader Podcast with Paul Jenkins! Find me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, and be sure to read the stuff I'm writing on my blog.

Did you know that I've launched a brand new weekly newsletter designed to help you crush Mondays and get your week off the ground? It's short, fun, a little quirky, and people are loving it! You can subscribe to The Launch Pad here.