In this jam-packed episode of Two Dads in Tech, Troy Munson and Daniel Berk take a deep dive into the wild world of startups, family life, and, of course, dad fashion.

What’s Inside This Episode?

• Startup Life vs. Family Life: Can you really balance building a high-growth startup and being present for your family? Troy gets real about the impossible juggling act, Paul Graham’s infamous startup advice, and why sometimes, revenue takes a back seat to lunch dates with your wife.
• Do You Actually Like Your Job? Daniel breaks down what to do if you hate your job but feel stuck. The guys explore how passion, risk, and that one guy who went from Groupon to supersonic jets (yes, really) can teach you how to pivot your career—without torching your bank account.
• The One Lesson You Shouldn’t Learn the Hard Way: Things get deep when Troy and Daniel open up about personal loss, tough conversations with family, and why you should probably tell people you love them way more than you do now. Spoiler: There are no do-overs.
• Why Life is Basically Just Chaos: Ever feel like life is a mess? That’s because it is. But the guys debate whether it’s all about how you respond to the madness or if we’re all just winging it. (Hint: We’re all winging it.)
• Gold Chains & Chest Hair Confessions: Because no Two Dads in Tech episode is complete without some ridiculousness, Daniel unveils his new TJ Maxx-inspired fashion phase, and Troy reminisces about his regrettable days of chest-hair manscaping.

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This episode is equal parts hilarious, insightful, and unexpectedly real. Whether you're grinding in tech, figuring out work-life balance, or just need a good laugh, you’re in the right place.

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Welcome to another hilarious, insightful, and completely unfiltered episode of Two Dads in Tech! In this episode, Troy Munson and Daniel Berk sit down with the one, the only, the myth, the legend—Brian LaManna from Gong. And trust us, this guy isn’t just good at sales… rumor has it, he once debugged software by whispering “work” at the code.

We kick things off by breaking down Brian’s sales career, his approach to being a top 1% AE, and his new venture, ClosedWon.xyz, where he’s teaching sellers how to master modern outbound (because let’s be honest—most sales emails are garbage).

But it’s not just sales talk. We go deep—like, “can Brian LaManna actually beat Daniel in a fight?” deep.

We uncover:

• Brian’s sports background – Football, volleyball, and why his vertical jump might still be elite.
• Why most SDRs are struggling today (and what they can do to stand out in an AI-saturated world).
• The worst DMs we’ve ever received on LinkedIn—including threats over cold email frameworks (yes, really).
• Should AI replace SDRs? Or are humans still needed to actually close deals?
• The biggest regrets in our careers—Troy’s MongoDB story, Daniel’s six-figure student loans, and Brian’s take on leaving his last company too late.
• Why the college degree might be dead in 10 years—our hot takes on what the future of education should look like.
• What Brian does outside of sales—Pickleball, UFC fights, and why hanging with Monty (his dog) might be tougher than closing enterprise deals.
• Daniel’s workout routine… or lack thereof. Will 2025 be the year he finally gets jacked? (Troy remains skeptical.)

And of course, it wouldn’t be Two Dads in Tech without dad jokes, roasting, and random chaos. If you’ve ever wanted to hear two tech dads grill a guest about his vertical jump, his chances in a fight, and his most uncomfortable DMs—all while dropping actual valuable sales insights—this is the episode for you.

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Welcome to another chaotic, hilarious, and slightly sleep-deprived episode of Two Dads in Tech! This week, Troy Munson and Daniel Berk are back at it again—armed with dad jokes, hot takes on AI, and an in-depth analysis of just how many times you can wear pants before washing them. (Spoiler: It’s a lot.)

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Here’s What’s Cookin’ in This Episode:

• Burritos & Regret: Troy starts the episode stuffed with what was probably a 1,300-calorie burrito and on the verge of needing a mid-podcast nap. Daniel, meanwhile, reflects on his personal tortilla-to-chip ratio crisis. If you’ve ever overeaten at a Mexican restaurant (aka every time you’ve gone to one), this segment is for you.
• Dad Life Diaries: The duo tackles the great parenting debate—who changes diapers in public, and why do men’s restrooms still not have changing tables? Also, why do toddlers act like they drank three energy drinks the second you step outside the house?
• AI Smackdown: DeepSeek vs. ChatGPT: Is OpenAI in trouble? Did a Chinese startup really build a ChatGPT competitor for $6 million? Is this all just an elaborate scheme to make us even more confused about what AI tool to use? Troy and Daniel break down the buzz, throw in a few conspiracy theories, and ultimately decide that as long as AI keeps serving them better ads for hats, they’re good.
• Data Privacy? Meh. The dads dive into the real question: Should we actually care if China has our data? Troy and Daniel make a compelling argument for “Please, just show me better targeted ads so I don’t have to Google things.”
• The Great Clothing Debate: How many times can you wear jeans without washing them? Is there a correct number of days joggers should be worn before they enter the laundry cycle? More importantly, why do we all have that one pile of “not dirty but not clean” clothes sitting somewhere in our house?
• Would You Sell Your LinkedIn Account? Troy and Daniel tackle the million-dollar (or maybe seven-million-dollar) question—how much would someone have to pay you to delete your LinkedIn account forever? The answer? Depends on if the check clears.
• Cold Outreach Strategy: Troy breaks down his aggressive, multi-channel, no-automation-needed outbound approach to getting meetings, including why you should always call someone right after they accept your LinkedIn request.
• The Email Client That Changed Everything: Superhuman sponsors this episode, and Daniel and Troy reveal how switching to this lightning-fast email client transformed their inbox game. (Spoiler: Troy originally hated it. Now, he’s a diehard fan.)
• The Ultimate Life Goal: What’s the dream? For Daniel, it’s a mix of running, taking care of his family, and achieving financial freedom. For Troy, it’s never reporting to anyone ever again—preferably while sipping a frozen drink on a beach. Both agree that 10 years ago, they’d never have imagined they’d be where they are today.
• Beach vs. Mountains: The classic debate. Also, if you haven’t considered Curaçao for your next trip, Troy has some convincing reasons why it’s a hidden gem.
• Closing Thoughts: Want to sponsor the pod? Hit up Daniel at daniel@twodadsintech.com. Want more dad jokes, spicy takes, and high-quality nonsense? Subscribe, follow, and share with a fellow dad who needs a laugh.

If you like your tech talk served with a side of absurd humor, dad relatability, and the occasional existential crisis about AI, this is the episode for you.

Hit play, enjoy the ride, and let’s try to see something.