Want to stop trading hours for dollars and start making real money as a web designer? In this episode of Web Design Empire, John and Kelly break down the smartest ways to diversify your income—so you can work less, earn more, and build a real business, not just a job.

We’re diving into: 💰 Recurring revenue goldmines—maintenance plans, hosting & more 🎨 Digital products, courses & passive income streams 🤝 Upselling, partnerships & consulting work for extra $$$ 🏡 Why real estate and SaaS made it into our portfolios

From freelance gigs to full-on empire-building, we’ve been there, done that—and we’re spilling the secrets. Tune in now!

Not all client relationships are meant to last forever. Sometimes, you need to walk away (or run), and other times, even great clients move on. In this episode of Web Design Empire, John and Kelly share their best (and worst) experiences breaking up with web design clients—when to do it, how to do it, and why it’s actually a good thing for your business.

We’re covering: 💔 The different types of client breakups—bad fits, nightmare clients & good clients moving on 🚩 Red flags to spot before saying yes to a project 😤 How to deal with unrealistic expectations (without losing your sanity) 🔥 Why firing a client can be the best business move you make

With real talk, and practical advice, we’ll help you handle client breakups like a boss. Tune in now!

In this Web Design Empire episode, John & Kelly recap 2024’s wins, lessons, and wild adventures—like Kelly’s real estate moves & John’s band featured on The Voice. They also share their 2025 game plan for Artillery, KDesign, Superfly, Break Into Web & more.

🚀 2024 highs & lows 💡 Scaling web design & digital products 🎓 The power of mentorship 🏡 Real estate & side hustles

Tune in for insights & inspiration!