• When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

  • Written by: Jessie Sage
  • Podcast

When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

Written by: Jessie Sage
  • Summary

  • When We’re Not Hustling is a twice monthly podcast that explores the lives and identities of sex workers outside our personas. Each episode features a long-form interview with a sex worker, where we talk about everything but work: personal philosophies, ambitions, family, relationships, passions, hobbies, mental and physical health, identity, spirituality, meaning-making, and more. On this show, we learn who sex workers are outside of the work they are known for. When We’re Not Hustling is an exploration of the people behind the fantasies.
    2024
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Episodes
  • S2 E22: I'm a Dominatrix With a PhD, and There's a Lot of Us, With Olivia Snow
    Dec 2 2024

    In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage interviews Olivia Snow, a writer, professor, and dominatrix, to discuss the intersections of academia, labor rights, and the surveillance of sex workers. Olivia shares insights from her research on algorithmic surveillance and how technology, particularly smartphones, profiles sex workers. The conversation delves into themes of class, labor, and societal perceptions of sex work, weaving in elements from Olivia’s dissertation on cannibalism and capitalism in 19th-century American literature. Together, Jessie and Olivia reflect on their experiences and the broader implications of their work, offering a nuanced look at the complexities of the industry.

    In This Episode:

    00:01: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling

    01:23: Podcast Overview with Host Jessie Sage

    02:44: Season Finale and Guest Introduction: Olivia Snow

    05:01: Olivia Snow on Academia and Sex Work Research

    06:53: Surveillance and Sex Work: A Discussion

    10:22: Historical Context of Surveillance in Sex Work

    12:30: Olivia Snow's Academic Background

    20:18: Cannibalism and Capitalism in American Literature

    28:02: Class Dynamics and Sex Work

    50:18: Sex Work, Queer Identity, and Community Dynamics

    Guest:

    Dr. Olivia Snow is a writer, professor, and dominatrix based in New York City. She’s currently a Visiting Assistant Researcher at the University of California, Los Angeles’s Department of Gender Studies and Center for Critical Internet Inquiry (C2i2), where she studies sex work, labor rights, tech, and policy. She’s written for WIRED, The Daily Beast, Jezebel, The Chronicle of Higher Education, The Nation, Slate, and Motherboard/VICE, and she’s been quoted in stories on sex work and whorephobia for Business Insider, Buzzfeed, CNN, The Daily Dot, Fast Company, Forbes, Glamour, The Guardian, Inside Higher Ed, Mashable, MEL Magazine, The New York Post, Paper Magazine, Polygon, Prism, TechCrunch, The Washington Post, and more.

    You can find Olivia:

    Website: doctrixsnow.com

    X: @MistressSnowPhD

    Instagram: @mistresssnowphd

    Recommendations:

    Pretty Baby, by Chris Belcher

    Chappell Roan

    The Rest:

    Host: Jessie Sage

    Producer: Emily Foster

    Music: Benjamin J Benamati

    Sponsor: Assembly Four

    Powered by Black Venom Digital

    When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

    You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • S2 E21 AP: Living in a Van and Doing Psychedelics Changed My Life
    Nov 27 2024

    In this episode of *When We're Not Hustling After Party*, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster discuss the appeal of van life and the challenges of minimal living. Emery shares his dream of a U.S. road trip and a simplified lifestyle, while Jessie reflects on her own experiences with van living, including the difficulties of maintaining cleanliness in small spaces. They explore the emotional significance of housing security, the comforts of home ownership, and the dynamics of solo versus group travel. The conversation shifts to psychedelics, examining their potential for self-discovery, ego reduction, and heightened self-awareness. The hosts differentiate between using substances for escapism versus exploration and consider the societal and legal controls on psychedelics. The episode concludes with reflections on the value of personal rituals, self-reflection, and the role of intention in fostering growth.

    In This Episode:

    00:02: Welcome to the Afterparty

    00:16: Guest Introductions

    00:33: Living in a Van

    01:25: Road Trip Dreams

    02:35: Minimalist Living Challenges

    05:09: Housing Security and Personal Space

    07:02: Travel Companions and Solo Journeys

    14:25: The Joy of Unplanned Adventures

    17:08: Perspectives on Psychedelics and Self-Discovery

    38:04: Legal System and Body Autonomy

    45:34: Closing Thoughts and Farewell

    People:

    Guest: Sinn Sage

    Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Emery Fields

    Producer: Emily Foster

    Music: Benjamin J Benamati

    You can support the show at pateron.com/sapiotextual

    When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

    You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

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    46 mins
  • S2 E21: Living in a Van and Doing Psychedelics Changed My Life with Sinn Sage
    Nov 25 2024

    In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage welcomes Sinn Sage, a longtime content creator and AVN Hall of Famer. Sinn shares her unique journey in the sex industry, from her early days as a stripper to producing indie porn and collaborating with her husband. The conversation explores her adventurous lifestyle, including living in a van, and her experiences with psychedelic medicine as a tool for personal growth and consciousness expansion. The episode highlights Sinn's multifaceted life and challenges societal stigmas around sex work, encouraging open and honest discussions.

    In This Episode:

    00:01: Introduction and Mission of When We're Not Hustling

    01:23: Meet the Host: Jessie Sage

    02:45: Introducing Guest: Sinn Sage

    03:43: Sinn Sage's Journey in the Sex Industry

    07:53: Life on the Road: Van Living Adventures

    17:37: Exploring Psychedelic Medicine

    27:25: MDMA and its Transformative Power

    37:07: Scientific Research and Benefits of Psychedelics

    47:02: The Impact of Psychedelics on Consciousness

    57:32: Reflections on Sex Work and Societal Stigma

    Guest:

    Sinn Sage is a longtime content creator, making high-quality custom videos and authentic porn with her friends and partner. She's also in the AVN Hall of Fame and has won two other AVN awards. She is also the host of the Sage Advice Podcast.

    You can find Sinn:

    Website: sinn-sage.com

    X: @sinnsage

    Recommendations:

    How to Change Your Mind, by Michael Pollan

    You're Wrong About, by Sarah Marshall

    Savage Lovecast by Dan Savage

    Good Girls Talk About Sex, by Leah Carey

    The Rest:

    Host: Jessie Sage

    Producer: Emily Foster

    Music: Benjamin J Benamati

    Sponsor: Assembly Four

    Powered by Black Venom Digital

    When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

    You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

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    1 hr and 13 mins

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