Van welcomes Rev. Philip Jones to discuss the concept of love and its application in their respective fields. Van, who facilitates groups and educates people on design and problem-solving, saw a connection between loving God and loving one's neighbor. Philip agreed with Van's perspective and emphasized the importance of love in Jesus' teachings. They both acknowledged the challenges of maintaining love and unity in the face of current differing political opinions and animosity in our country. Van expressed concerns about the lack of factual information and the division it causes, particularly in political and social issues. Philip suggested a practical New Year's resolution to be deliberately loving. Philip and Van express concerns about the lack of agreement on what patriotism means and its implications for our country.

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We envision a world where design and religion are more understood, accepted, and demystified. To do this, we want to bring people into the humanity behind design and religion, showing them the real people and honest perspectives that create both cultures.

Nate is the Head Pastor at Red Clay Creek Presbyterian Church https://rccpc.org/

Van is a Service Designer and Illustrator, and his work can be found at https://www.vansheacreative.com/

Nate and Van discuss the rough plan for "redesigning" religion, focusing on the small steps and changes within the Protestant Church and the idea of breaking down the work by conducting a variety of six-week series on small topics. This would enable guests from various religious traditions to join, share ideas, and hopefully become allies. Concerns were raised about the time and manpower required for such an enormous effort, so we ask anyone interested in helping to email us at the address given at the end of this episode.

Link to the presentation Van walked Nate through:
https://bit.ly/dnr_redesign_plan

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We envision a world where design and religion are more understood, accepted, and demystified. To do this, we want to bring people into the humanity behind design and religion, showing them the real people and honest perspectives that create both cultures.

Nate is the Head Pastor at Red Clay Creek Presbyterian Church https://rccpc.org/

Van is a Service Designer and Illustrator, and his work can be found at https://www.vansheacreative.com/

Nate and Van discuss resilience and its relationship with self-compassion and faith, and its importance in overcoming personal struggles and finding one's identity. They also touch on the challenges of self-acceptance, the role of religion in providing support, and the importance of perseverance and having a stable foundation in navigating life's changes.

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We envision a world where design and religion are more understood, accepted, and demystified. To do this, we want to bring people into the humanity behind design and religion, showing them the real people and honest perspectives that create both cultures.

Nate is the Head Pastor at Red Clay Creek Presbyterian Church https://rccpc.org/

Van is a Service Designer and Illustrator, and his work can be found at https://www.vansheacreative.com/